David Shambaugh: "China Goes Global"
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Just 30 years ago, China was a poor, isolated nation of rural farmers. The vast majority of its citizens struggled to afford food and clothes. But a series of free market reforms in the 1980s and '90s transformed China, propelling it to the No. 2 spot in the global economy. China is now the world’s largest manufacturer and has the second biggest military. But a leading China expert says the rise of the Middle Kingdom has been greatly exaggerated. He says China’s influence is limited by isolationism and a focus on low-end manufacturing. Diane and author David Shambaugh discuss the myth of China’s global power.
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David Shambaugh
professor and director of the China Policy Program in the Elliott School of International Affairs at George Washington University.
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The most important question will always be "How long will China be able to feed itself?" This is not entirely a matter of population or even population demographics. Choosing naval armadas and Buicks over wheat and rice hastens crisis.
Shipping Canadian sludge over there can only speed climate disruption undermining the food balance. Only the United States seems to possess the callousness, the arms and the cutthroats to be able to extort food from hungry populations, and it is gradually losing the obligation to feed its own.
Notice how Oligarchs spike US gas prices as the Keystone XL decision looms. They take US citizens for idiots, and they may be onto something. The same Oligarchs have long funded stupidity. Chinese politburo types pitifully emulate them.
Israel has been caught selling US military technology to China. Undermining US National Security They came under some congressional heat for doing so. Has this dangerous billion dollar hanky panky stopped?
srael accused of selling US secrets to China
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/israel-accused-of-selling-us-sec... has sold at least dollars 2bn ( pounds 1.3bn) to dollars 3bn of hi-tech military equipment to China, seriously undermining US efforts to limit the sale of advanced weapons to the Chinese. A Senate report due out later this week says the Israeli exports include military technology developed by the US, and which Washington expressly forbids from being exported to China.
Officials accompanying Israel's Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin, on a visit to China confirmed that Israel had done deals but would not elaborate. The CIA told the committee the Chinese were seeking from Israel technologies that Western firms were unwilling to provide.
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/13/world/israel-sells-arms-to-china-us-sa...
ISRAEL SELLS ARMS TO CHINA, U.S. SAYS
By MICHAEL R. GORDON
Published: October 13, 1993
Israel has sold advanced military technology to China for more than a decade and is moving to expand its cooperation with Beijing, says R. James Woolsey, the Director of Central Intelligence.
The C.I.A. assessment was provided in written responses to questions by the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee. The committee made the assessment public last week as part of a report on recent hearings it conducted on "proliferation threats of the 1990's," a committee aide said on Monday.
According to this about.com post, China owns 8% of our debt (not 4% as your guest suggested).
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/moneymatters/ss/How-Much-US-Debt-Does-Chin...
Soon after 9/11 Fox news reporter Carl Cameron did a four part special about US communication systems, data mining being infiltrated allegedly by another foreign nation through Israeli based communication system that had access to 95% of US phone systems in the US.
Have always wondered about which country came through the back door of a foreign country Israel that all ready had access to US systems. Is China the country that infiltrated Israel's access to US communication systems
Camerons four part report
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
I wonder what the threat is of allowing the sales of communications routers manufactured in China inside the US in the national network backbone. We understand that China can put a router on our market that is cheaper and as effective as our providers like Cisco, but if they are able to insert malicious code into our network at the router level I consider that a major threat and a challenge in the communications infrastructure market.
Who would you say spies on the US more Israel or China? Many former CIA agents say Israel
The US and Israel have attacked Iran through cyber attacks. Does the US or have any real legitimate standing to be pointing the finger at China about cyber attacks? Monkey see monkey do
ask your host on how many chinese graphene patient they hold vs united state japan and europe's graphene patient.
soft power is a lie. look at united states, Europe and Israel's soft power. all the mass murder of couture and racial genocide to obtain land, wreath and power gain them all the so call soft power in the world. any country like united state who supported a civil war in Korea and allow torture and mass murdering of civilian in the middle east and Afghanistan can claim so call soft power is a joke.
We fought a war against our own people, supposedly over the issue of slavery. Then we crawl into bed (economically-speaking) with the largest slave labor economy on earth.
Then we start complaining.
Go figure.
Professor Shambaugh has pointed out some of China's achievement, such as its high speed rail and roads. However, it should be noted that these sometimes fail because of shoddy workmanship, corner cutting, corruption and who knows what else.
How do you get bumper to bumper congestion on a road that you haven't finished building?
intellectual technology thief. wow that's funny. guess who stole all the nazi jet engine technology as well as all the rocket technology from germany? look closely at all the boeing jet in the 1950-70s. not to mention all the willing stolen technology europe and united states gave to the japanese and koreans. what a joke. united states is founded on stolen technology from europe so who is going to pay them from all the fabric mill machines that the founding father of this country use to build this nation.
China and their military has been caught hacking 141 companies to steal IP.
BEIJING/SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A secretive Chinese military unit is believed to be behind a series of hacking attacks, a U.S. computer security company said, prompting a strong denial by China and accusations that it was in fact the victim of U.S. hacking.
The company, Mandiant, identified the People's Liberation Army's Shanghai-based Unit 61398 as the most likely driving force behind the hacking. Mandiant said it believed the unit had carried out "sustained" attacks on a wide range of industries.
"The nature of 'Unit 61398's' work is considered by China to be a state secret; however, we believe it engages in harmful 'Computer Network Operations'," Mandiant said in a report released in the United States on Monday.
i know for a fact that the Chinese don't need global recognition. they buy what all ready exist. example. who do you think owns barclay? the brits? no its the chinese.
you mean scusenet is not as powerful as the Chinese's virus that spy on the rich folk's bank account? and that one (scusenet) almost kill civilians. as in mass murder by nuclear meltdown! wow did china do that or united state? guess on the list of american war crime you should add that on the list too.
I know the following article is not directly related to the present show, but I wish to highlight it for Diane Rehm and for her listeners:
http://www.france24.com/en/20130216-climate-change-real-economic-risk-wo...
They have enough cash to bribe U.S.politicians into getting the oil from Canada via the Keystone XL pipeline.
They have enough cash and smarts to develop alternative fuels,like those used in modern commercial airliners.
Kathleen wrote: "Israel has been caught selling US military technology to China. Undermining US National Security They came under some congressional heat for doing so. Has this dangerous billion dollar hanky panky stopped?"
Question for you Kathleen: Fed was caught GIVING 4 each F16's to egypt "Has this dangerous billion dollar hanky panky stopped?"
You have a penchant for railing against Israel in almost every post... I know you are intelligent and I do read your posts. I can't believe that you would let personal bias against Israel season your comments... Is there an underlying cause for all this venom or do you really not understand the situation on the ground with Israel, Gaza, the Palestinians, Syria, Iran and Hamas? I don't condone or support sharing/selling proprietary technology with other nations but I am also not so naive as to believe that the good 'ol US of A is not guilty of doing the same thing... You think hacking into Iran's technology was a lark??? Consider that in the world of cyber espionage "information" and "technology" are commonly traded commodities...just like any other commodity. Arms used to be the product of choice, but now it's technology. Not good... but it happens every day and on a world-wide scale. Sometimes there are "leaks" and sometimes there are "purposeful leaks"... Just ask the POTUS's P.R. staff and the media.... they are well versed in this "trade".
"kiven wrote:
you mean scusenet is not as powerful as the Chinese's virus that spy on the rich folk's bank account? and that one (scusenet) almost kill civilians. as in mass murder by nuclear meltdown! wow did china do that or united state? guess on the list of american war crime you should add that on the list too.
February 19, 2013 - 12:31 pm"
If Stuxnet really existed, it was almost certainly put there by Siemens.
In 1982, the CIA allegedly sold faulty Gas Pipeline equipment to the Russians as well as an Operating System deliberately designed to destroy the Siberian pipeline.
"In order to disrupt the Soviet gas supply, its hard currency earnings from the West, and the internal Russian economy, the pipeline software that was to run the pumps, turbines and valves was programmed to go haywire after a decent interval, to reset pump speeds and valve settings to produce pressures far beyond those acceptable to pipeline joints and welds," Mr Reed writes.
The project exceeded the CIA's wildest dreams. There were no casualties in the explosion, but it was so dramatic that the first reports are said to have stirred alarm in Washington.
The initial reports led to fears that the Soviets had launched a missile from a place where rockets were not known to be based, or even had detonated "a small nuclear device", Mr Reed writes in his book.
While some of the details of the CIA's counter-offensive have emerged before, the sabotage of the gas pipeline has remained a secret until now. Mr Reed told the Post he had CIA approval to make the disclosures."
They claim there were no casualties, which is hard to believe.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
"REHM
10:22:24
Now, we have an email here from Sarah: "Could you please comment on the fact that the reason that many cyberattacks come out of China is because many cyberhackers run their IPs through China so that they cannot be traced?" Can you answer that, Richard?
BEJTLICH
10:22:49
I'd be happy to. That's a valid concern. And the way to think about this is if you simply arrive on the scene of a cyberattack and you've never done the work before, you only have the evidence at hand. It can be easy to be fooled by what the adversary is doing. And, in fact, in the case of The Times, we saw them routing their activity out of universities in Arizona and other locations.
BEJTLICH
10:23:13
In other words, we weren't seeing traffic going directly back to China. It's only by virtue of the infrastructure we have around the world and by virtue of helping our customers that we can see in places that get beyond what's happening just from that company out to their -- what we call their first hot points.
BEJTLICH
10:23:32
So, sure, if you were just looking at this and say, oh, I see traffic going to Florida, I see it going to Arizona, there is no over tie to the Chinese. But when you take it that next level, when you take a look at what they're doing, how they're doing it, you match up against the other intelligence work we've done, that's where you can figure out the attribution problem. "
I can see your heart is in the right place, Diane, but you oughtn't to have let the Mandiant Guy weasel out of that one.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
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...and then the poor man's brain fell out of his ear and rolled across the floor. And when he finally plucked it up between thumb and fore-finger, dusted it off and saw the true lack of it's size thereof... he choked on the accumulated puss and bile in his throat... and noted that even though his poor brain was rather smallish, it was also very red and infected and angry looking, and he sobbed and rocked back and forth in his fetal position and muttered quietly to himself "and I thought what I wrote in my post was so brilliant"...
but... I digress...
2nd: Monte, you ASSume way too much about who I am, where I hail from and what my ancestry is... your problem is, in this instance you only made an ass out of yourself with your anti-semitic comments. Your comments stand for all the world to judge for themselves. I won't flag them or comment further on them. No need to waste time and effort. You said it ALL... in two very revealing sentences. Keep up the good work, Monte - you are doing a great job representing your leftist cause... a SHINING example of a BIG TENT (with holes in it)!!!!