The Growing Threat Of Cyber-Espionage
Until very recently, cyber espionage was only a concern of intelligence agencies and the military. But a new report warns U.S. infrastructure and businesses are broadly under attack in cyberspace. Experts say the biggest offender is China, whose cyber spies threaten competitiveness and national security. Recent targets include Google, Lockheed Martin and The New York Times. While Congress weighs legislative options, President Barack Obama plans to issue an executive order on cyber security tomorrow. But critics say new laws raise privacy concerns. Diane and guests discuss what to do about the growing threat of cyber-espionage.
Guests
national security reporter, The Washington Post
senior counselor at Palantir Technologies and former director of the National Counterterrorism Center
president of Mischel Kwon Associates, a security consulting firm, and former director of the United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT)
chief security officer, Mandiant

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Message 1-China is the Boogerman! Boo-o-o-o
Somehow despite the relentless global class warfare of nominal owners versus those doing the necessary work, humanity remains organized into nationalistic teams, kind of like the NFL.
Message 2- Bizmocracy means the Internet is a private toll road owned entirely and outright by brands like Google and the New York Times. Intellectual property cannot exist, or at least is not recognized, until it comes into the possession of billion-scaled corporate interests. A good analogy is how ownership of schlock art by the wealthy class makes it a valuable second currency.
Message 3- You are a terrorist if you have downloaded by bit torrent (file sharing) any currently saleable films, books or music without paying the corporate owners. Guilt and insecurity should overwhelm you negating your enjoyment of these forbidden fruits. If you are an intellectual property thief you must also be a drug dealer, a child pornographer and a mass murderer, besides being a traitor to bizmocracy. If you read WikiLeaks a drone may follow your car.
Message 4: Inferior races will not continue doing the dirty work if you break solidarity with our oppressive national security state. Forget that the same corporations that own you own the sweatshop girls making your sneakers. Lockheed Martin knows the size and color, the type and brand of those you wear, and the kind you really want but can't afford. (This information, and much more, can be used against you.... in a "court of law".... ha ha ha, get real.)
*Can you find other messages implied and embedded in the structure and agenda of today's show. If you can then please share.
Pancake Rankin wrote: ...
Message 1: It appears the Chinese state is behind the recent attack on the Times.
Message 2: Lets give everything away for free after all just because someone adds value to a product or service they should not only not be compensated but they should be taxed out of existence.(Please see sarcasm)
Message 3: Your not a terrorist but you are stealing someone's work. Or maybe all the movies and music should be free there by removing the incentive for persons to go into those fields. I like movies, I would like movies to still be available and I have no problem paying people for there work and creativity.
Message 4: Give me everything for free, and don't use the information, after all it's the only way to make a profit, or even break even when you have costs associated with providing the good or service and who cares if Google goes under those employees deserve to be out of work and should be feed on Government cheese and foodstamps, There investment in their future by going to college and studying in an area that we as a society find valuable just means that they should be reviled anyway. Tax them and give the money to those that choose to drop out of high school, or who studied art history and ghost stories.(Again please see sarcasm)
Why do you think that people that have chosen to invest in themselves are somehow responsible for those who chose not to? Stupid should hurt, being poor sucks, work hard and smart and enjoy the benefits. Isn't pushing forward instead of leaning back on your heels what we should be encouraging?
Why are we complaining about what China is doing to us? Didn't we go to great pains to "cozy up" to them; especially through the efforts of Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon? Didn't we ship as much of our economy as possible to them? Aren't they shipping cheap goods to us as fast as they can? Did we think we could buy their friendship?
I guess the joke is on us!
I've never understood why critical systems such as nuclear power plant controls, oil pipeline controls are connected to the internet. I can see no reason for this other than ease of use.
I hope your guests discuss the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) which has been re-introduced in the House. The ACLU and Electronic Frontier Foundation have raised serious concerns about this bill's potential effect on privacy. I wish the panel included a privacy advocate.
Blablabla....more government propaganda from the Lame Stream Media to shove their totalitarianism leaning programs through with CISPA, SOPA, etc....
The public DOES NOT want, nor will they allow FEAR to legislate this type of phony cyber shutdown of our internet....when will they learn..
We didn't want the Patriot Act...We didn't want NDAA......and we don't want this....
the time for this type of tyranny to continue should End.
My nightmare scenerio involves a mole in a cybersecurity firm feeding the security software code to an entity with malicious intent.
'Respect Privacy and Liberty"
Ha.....like the Patriot Act?
Our government must take their Constituency for morons if they expect us to embrace any more of this tyranny ...
They hate us for our Freedom......right
would it possible to create a cyber language that would be place specific so if they did breech the computer, they would not understand what it said.
We used the American Indian language during the second world war and they had a terrible time interpreting it.
In the past we were tricked into WMD war in Iraq by Bush Administration. While we need to defend ourselves; can your guest show any concrete proof that there is cyber attack by foreign nations like Chinese or Russians? Where can the public go to see the proof? Also what cyber espionage has US been conducting?
What is there to steal from US; we have handed over the entire functions from Research and Development to production to China, India, Ireland and other countries? What are the foreign countries trying to steal – inventory data of their shipped products? Go check out the shelves of all major retailers and do let the public know if you find anything MADE IN USA.
Soon after 9/11 Fox News reporter Carl Cameron did a four part report on data mining, etc including some coverage on potential cyber attacks. In that report he mentions that US intelligence had been gotten into through a back door by another country through an Israeli communication system that has access to 95% of all US phone systems.
Was this country that went through that back door China?
The Four part report
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
I will not stoop to play word games with demonstrated fascists.
The New York Times hides news from the public that the Oligarchs would punish them for publishing. Right now there are important court cases on the NDAA in which they suppress the facts. Bravo to those who can steal and disseminate material that should be in the public domain. (See Chris Hedges' column today at Truthdig.) Human rights, freedoms and protections trump all illegitimate corporate ownership.
It was laughable the rhetoric about how security issues inhibit the sharing of technical data between corporations and with government. That is a lie. Greed prohibits sharing among corporations. Government seems to have no problem using private business for invasion of individual privacy; and vice versa. And if it's too dangerous hooking nuclear plants up for communications that's another reason they should close down. (If that is possible. Duke Power wants NC residents to pay for decommissioning at Crystal River, Florida.) Diane, you seem to be drawing corporate vermin as panelists, install screens.
`I wondered where all the conspiracy nuts from fox news were during the day. I found you. Who woulda thought you would be hiding in the Diane Rehm show comments page.
Our fellow Americans are not after us. Relax.
kathleen, good. She presents the subtext: Who actually mines data and for what purpose?
Pancake Rankin wrote:
"humanity remains organized into nationalistic teams, kind of like the NFL."
So who is the Commissioner?
"Bizmocracy: A good analogy is how ownership of schlock art by the wealthy class makes it a valuable second currency".
Huh? Gobbledydgook does not a point make.
"You are a terrorist if you have downloaded by bit torrent (file sharing) any currently saleable films, books or music without paying ...."
No. You are a thief...and I do mean you. You have already admitted to stealing internet services.
"Lockheed Martin knows the size and color, the type and brand of those you wear, and the kind you really want but can't afford."
Evidence that you just make it up as you go along. I have occasion to work with LM and know the company intimately . What you state is categorically false.
urbanrage wrote:
"... the time for this type of tyranny to continue should End".
Honey, it's just getting started!
M Khan wrote:
"In the past we were tricked into WMD war in Iraq by Bush Administration."
Tricked? Not going to reprosecute that one yet again, but sorry, your statement is utter BS.
M Khan- Confrontation: demands proof of cyber warfare by foreign nation states.
Recalls History: Is there such a thing as false flagged cyber attack?
Assesses probable reality: Is not the USA (and allied corporate interests) the technical leader and primary aggressor in domestic and international cyber aggression?
Very insightful.
One fascist claims to have enjoyed intercourse with Lockheed Martin, or was it L&M cigarettes?
Pancake Rankin wrote:
"One fascist claims to have enjoyed intercourse with Lockheed Martin, or was it L&M cigarettes?"
Nice try. Ad hominem attack (which isn't surprising when it's all you've got in rebuttal) does not change the fact that your statement "Lockheed Martin knows the size and color, the type and brand of those you wear, and the kind you really want but can't afford" was made-up, fantastical, and false. But it begs the question, "what else does PR post that is made-up, fatastical, and false"?
It is more efficient for the Chinese to steal innovations and intellectual property than to incur the cost and time of creating their own.
Please have a look at this article, it is a telling story of China's National Policy of steal information.
China's Cyber Thievery Is National Policy—And Must Be Challenged
http://www.wire-news.com/chinas-cyber-thievery-is-national-policy-and-mu...
There's alot of FUD (fear uncertainty doubt) in the internet security field.
Your small business caller talks about getting notices of 'hack attempts' from China - I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but those weren't 'attacks' . They were active scans looking for issues, nothing more. As long as you don't have internal services exposed to the outside world, you don't have much to worry about in that sense.
I get those kinds of scans by the hundreds every minute on some of my servers - from China, Russia, etc. They don't really care who you are, what you do - they are only looking for specific holes that are easily exploitable. If you take even the most basic steps using the built in Windows, Linux, or OS X firewalls, you can make your system a whole lot less interesting.
Companies like SonicWall will use scare tactics like sending notices of 'hack attempts' in an attempt to encourage you to pay for their services or upgrade your 'protection' further. ZoneAlarm used to do similar, and quite a few of the antivirus programs still do it.
What you should be much more concerned about is the individual computer security on your network - all it takes is one computer to get infected by a virus or trojan and that pricy firewall you just purchased is worth nothing at all.
Most of the modems/routers you get from your DSL or cable provider are capable of protecting a network quite well, but you have to turn off unnecessary services, UPnP, and change default passwords.