Privacy Rights And Government Access To Electronic Messages
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-11-29/privacy-rights-and-government-access-electronic-messages
The Senate considers a bill to allow federal agencies to access electronic messages. Balancing privacy rights and public safety.
Guests
David Cole
law professor at Georgetown University Law Center and author of "The Torture Memos: Rationalizing the Unthinkable." His previous books include "Less Safe, Less Free" and "Terrorism and the Constitution."
Scott Fredericksen
managing partner at Foley & Lardner, LLP and former federal prosecutor and Independent Counsel.
Michelle Quinn
technology correspondent for Politico.
Comments
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This is old news. The government through its various technologies eavesdrops on us in a million ways.
This is old news. The government through its various technologies eavesdrops on us in a million ways.
Where are all the liberals who railed against the patriot act?? Even Obama made claims as a Senator of wanting to repeal portions of it and as a President renewed it in it's entirety without comment, now he only adds to it.
It's obvious that liberals have a soft spot for a dictatorial type of government, they use the constitution like toilet paper whenever they have the chance. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and many other despots had very similar goals and ambitions to modern day democrats, you would have to be in total denial to not see it.
The vast majority of Democrats AND Republicans adore Big Brother Government. Don't kid yourself, PP.
True, but at least the republicans do a better job pretending that the Constitution still means something.
partisan politics wrote:
True, but at least the republicans do a better job pretending that the Constitution still means something.
Really? Wasn't it the Bush Administration that initiated the warrantless wiretapping program that COMPLETELY ignored the Fourth Amendment? Granted Obama has continued the program, something that very much angers me, but it was conceived, designed and executed by the ones doing the "better job" of pretending.
I remember a soldier who did not trust sending information to his representative from Afghanistan. Late 2006, or 2007.
Follow this issue in your imagination.
"Really? Wasn't it the Bush Administration"
Where did I defend GB?
He was not a "conservative" and held no identifiable "libertarian" philosophies that I have been able to find.
pp: You said "True, but at least the republicans do a better job pretending that the Constitution still means something."
Are you going to contend that Bush wasn't a Republican either?
RINO!
A murder in an alley. The police want to know who was in the alley. They go to the cell phone companies and ask them to give data on who was in that alley at a certain time frame. Should this be allowed?
partisan politics wrote:
"Really? Wasn't it the Bush Administration"
Where did I defend GB?
He was not a "conservative" and held no identifiable "libertarian" philosophies that I have been able to find.
He was however, Republican, which goes directly to your statement of the Republicans being better at pretending follow the Constitution.
I communicate with a friend in Afghanistan. Should I assume that my records are looked at? And why is it that an American citizen can not even access records that would show if you have been listened to or looked at.
And what is it with the Diane Rehm show. A huge day for Palestinians at the UN and the Rehm team just ignores this vote and what it means. But what would one expect out of a program that has not even done a full hour on the ongoing expansion of Israeli illegal settlements in the West Bank and illegal housing in E Jerusalem? Telling that the Rehm team is one of the major MSM outlets and willing to keep Americans in the dark about the root causes of the conflict
In Norfolk, VA, one can see heat pouring out the chimneys of property that has been rental for some time, therefore left to degrade. Are poor and military in reduced circumstances in Norfolk rental housing subject to possible search due to radiant heat sensing?
kathleen wrote: "A huge day for Palestinians"
Hard to believe you have not reassessed your views on the 'Palestinian struggle" by now Kathleen. It's pretty obvious these days that Hamas and the Palestinians are just pawns of biblical Jew haters across the region. I think it best described this way, a Palestinian state that borders Israel is just another way of getting rocket launchers and mortars that much closer to the heart of Israel.
I read in the Smithsonian Magazine that Thomas Jefferson stopped opposition slavery when he realized that each new slave baby on his estates increased his potential income by 4%, if that child survived to 8. We have a long history in the US to converting every action into money.
This is old news, indeed. I read in the Smithsonian Magazine that Thomas Jefferson stopped his opposition to slavery when he realized that every slave baby would increase production by 4% if the child lived to age 8.
Invasion of Privacy starts at inception of technology. Long before an electronic gadget is released; standards committees write and develop standards for interoperation. While the vendors of hardware and software developer are there to comply with interoperability issues the government representatives are at the standards committees with their own agenda; they want to make sure the government has the ability to intercept and eavesdrop. Government engineers influence the standards to make sure government has the capability to invade anyone’s privacy. If privacy is to be protected than Civil liberty lawyers should have a seat at the standards committees just like government does.
President Ronald Regan criticized communist countries of spying and eavesdropping on their citizens; today US has adopted the tactics of communist countries and communist have become the best capitalists.
With a warrent then yes.
I think having a judge rubber stamp such a request is more than fair to both our privacy rights and to police needs for information on a felony investigation.
I worry when authorities defend the right to gather such information without even the most basic judical oversight.
Robert DeMola wrote:
"A murder in an alley. The police want to know who was in the alley. They go to the cell phone companies and ask them to give data on who was in that alley at a certain time frame. Should this be allowed?
November 29, 2012 - 10:22 am "
partisan politics wrote:
"Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and many other despots had very similar goals and ambitions to modern day democrats, you would have to be in total denial to not see it."
You are great at making hyperbolic statements like this AND you violated Godwin's Law in the same sentence! Thank You for making it easy for people to completely ignore you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law