Hurricane Sandy And The 2012 Presidential Election
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-10-31/hurricane-sandy-and-2012-presidential-election
President Obama is expected in New Jersey today to meet with Governor Chris Christie and view the devastation caused by Hurricane Sandy. New Jersey and New York were hit particularly hard by the storm. Along the East Coast, at least 50 people lost their lives. And millions are still without power. The economic cost has been estimated at between $30 billion and $50 billion. The hurricane placed election campaigning on the back burner as President Obama canceled appearances and Governor Romney altered his event schedule. Diane and her guests discuss the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy and how the natural disaster might affect the 2012 election.
Guests
Beth Reinhard
reporter for National Journal.
Ed O'Keefe
congressional and political reporter for The Washington Post; he spent recent years also covering FEMA.
Jackie Calmes
national correspondent for The New York Times.
Comments
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You weren't paying attention. As soon as the storm hit, Romney asked that donors suspend donatioms and give to storm victims via Red Cross, etc.
"ecgberht wrote:
John R. Gustafson wrote:
"One the most important factors improving emergency response for hurricanes, floods-- all natural disasters is that the National Incident Management System mandates the use of the Incident Command System to manage the response...."
This was put in place after 9/11. Also, one of the things about Katrina was that Bush wanted to put National Guard troops on the ground, but wanted them to be able to carry arms against looters, etc. Blanco refused. Bush could not override her refusal based on an antiquated law from the 1800s that forbade the President from putting boots on the ground contrary to the Governor's wishes. He was finally forced to split the response into two groups; FEMA to manage the disaster under one command and the NG under a DIFFERENT command, with the guardsmen unarmed to get around the law. That antiquated law has since been struck by Congress and the President has more capability in the case of natural disasters.
October 31, 2012 - 11:39 am"
As usual, poor eggie's Dementia muddled mind has gone completely off the rails again!!
The Guard did have guns (M-16) and when they started going door to door confiscating guns, the Bush/NRA Militia went berserk.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
"ecgberht wrote:
"For example, President Bush did want to visit NO personally, but as another poster has pointed out with respect to Sandy, his doing so would have drawn first responders from the work they should have been doing. So, he elected to fly over to see the damage instead. That was presented by MSM as "Bush doesn't care enough to even touch down". It was a misrepresentation as to what was happening and was simply false.
October 31, 2012 - 11:28 am"
You mean like he did after 9/11??? He stopped the whole operation while he blabbered his Yellow-bellied, Yale Rear-Ender, AWOL Guardsman, bad Boy threats which ended in 3000 American Deaths, 1,000,000 Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistani casualties and the successful escape of his Family's Friend, Bin Laden.
Why don't you ask Diane to let you review Bush's Book on air, which you did so ably this week on the Blog??
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
"John R. Gustafson wrote:
One the most important factors improving emergency response for hurricanes, floods-- all natural disasters is that the National Incident Management System mandates the use of the Incident Command System to manage the response. This puts the Federal, State and local governments in a coordination structure, working together on a a daily agenda of priorities for action. This is now mandated at all levels of government by Federal legislation.
John Gustafson
Executive Director
National Response Team (Retired)
Incident Command System (ICS) Overview (From FEMA Website)
The Incident Command System (ICS) is a standardized, on-scene, all-hazards incident management approach that:
Allows for the integration of facilities, equipment, personnel, procedures and communications operating within a common organizational structure.
Enables a coordinated response among various jurisdictions and functional agencies, both public and private.
Establishes common processes for planning and managing resources.
ICS is flexible and can be used for incidents of any type, scope and complexity. ICS allows its users to adopt an integrated organizational structure to match the complexities and demands of single or multiple incidents.
October 31, 2012 - 11:06 am"
What you say is undoubtedly true, but you have overlooked the very most important component of the preparation for natural disasters, which is the weather forecasting that makes any preparation possible.
Unfortunately, that is a Government Service, of incalcuable value, that the Scum want to and have been partially successful in privatizing.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
Some pollsters and media types are labeling Romney's ongoing Jeep ads as a "Hail Mary" last ditch effort......swinging for the fences as if any desperate try might work....even considering statements that contradict Chrysler management.
Using just a Hail Mary is a poor metaphor since the enormity of the falsity would require at least a Litany of the Saints or a Novena to St. Jude. Problem is that a Litany or one-time prayer lacks the level of metaphysical "oomph"; and a Novena requires nine days of commitment........about two days too late by this stage of the election.
Congress can do a legislative "Reconciliation".......but a padre is needed for this magnitude to overcome.
BTW.....
"deer in the headlights" is the proper spelling, even if we hold the candidate as "dear" to our affection.......and it's the "polls" that count in an overall vote in the US, with all due repect to our neighbors with ancestors who arrived here from Poland.
At least Romney's campaign-event-turned-charity-relief seemed relatively genuine..........not washing clean pots and pans.
Please note, panelist talking about farm drought aid in red states is incorrect this year - with no farm bill - there is no drought aid for 2012
About 20 Years ago, a consortium of Insurance Underwriters (possibly Europeans) pleaded for someone to explain and hopefully fix whatever was causing the natural disasters that were in danger of bankrupting them in their near future.
During Sandy, several people said that the flooding in New York was unimaginable, but Gotham engloutie was used in many Post Apocalypse themed Films.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
The Republican Caller from NC had a lot of nerve complaining about the Govt response to Sandy.
I used to live in VA and liked to drive down in the Fall to fish off the Outer Banks.
Mother Nature, who created the Outer Banks, has now decided it should disappear. Nevertheless, the Govt has spent mind-boggling money trying to preserve it and protect the Jerry-built vacation homes that rest on sand foundations.
What Ingrates!!
As to abuse, after a somewhat high Tide caused some minor flooding, one of the Military, Civil Service, Journalists, Insurance Agents or others able to take early retirement with cushy Pensions and buy waterfront or near waterfront homes, came running into the Gun Store where I hung out yelling that a Disaster Declaration had been made and there were no realistic restrictions on distance from the Bay or even evidence of flooding.
Those Residents were eligible for low interest loans which were like finding money to them, who would borrow the maximum and put it into high interest CDs.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
HonestAbe wrote: 'Some pollsters and media types are labeling Romney's ongoing Jeep ads as a "Hail Mary" last ditch effort......swinging for the fences as if any desperate try might work....even considering statements that contradict Chrysler management"
Not so fast Honest?Abe
"Marchionne, as quoted by Linkhorn told employees that "Jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the United States and will constitute the backbone of the brand. It is inaccurate to suggest anything different." While that may be true, it doesn't change the fact that the company announced plans to build a new Jeep model in Italy which will be exported to Europe and North America. As Bloomberg reported early this afternoon:"
"While that investment and the job additions (if the figures are truly correct) are indeed nice, it doesn't change the fact that Fiat will be making a Jeep model in Italy which could have been made here. If the company continues to choose Italy or any other locale outside the U.S. for Jeeps to export to America, older models made in the U.S. will gradually move through their product life cycle. If they're not replaced with newer models, at some point U.S. production will end up coming down and the need for the entire cast of current U.S. workers will diminish.
Thanks to the non-business press's obsession with playing "gotcha" on Mitt Romney and his comments about Fiat and China, Marchionne has just pulled a fast one, and now has set a precedent that he can make Chrysler and Jeep branded vehicles overseas and export them to the U.S. and the rest of North America without objection. Way to go, guys."
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/10/30/china-and-romney-obse...
@PartisanPol:
Put your link up front, please. Seeing "Newsbusters" first will save us a lot of time.
"partisan politics wrote:
HonestAbe wrote: 'Some pollsters and media types are labeling Romney's ongoing Jeep ads as a "Hail Mary" last ditch effort......swinging for the fences as if any desperate try might work....even considering statements that contradict Chrysler management"
Not so fast Peepee.
"Marchionne, as quoted by Linkhorn told employees that "Jeep assembly lines will remain in operation in the United States and will constitute the backbone of the brand. It is inaccurate to suggest anything different."
Nevertheless, Tom Blumer, Bloomberg and the DRShow BS Meisters do exactly that by spinning a Tale of 100% C-ap.
ANYHOW ROMNEY, ROMNEY'S AD AND ROMNEY"S MEDIA FRIENDS SAID--
"JEEP IS MOVING ALL ITS PRODUCTION TO CHINA."
Have you pathetic Rats no shame??
I'm with Abe.
October 31, 2012 - 6:34 pm
"KadeKo wrote:
@PartisanPol:
Put your link up front, please. Seeing "Newsbusters" first will save us a lot of time.
October 31, 2012 - 7:16 pm"
Don't overlook Bloomberg!!
There are a group of Blogs that Halt my Computer whenever I visit their Sites. They are a bunch of very sophisticated Hackers, some High School kids showed them how to do it.
They are mostly far Right Wing trash, frequently linked from Drudge, who are terrified that if I can read their junk, I'll destroy their clumsy attempts to affect events.
the list-
Alternet
Wash Times
CBS Local-
New York, Boston, San Diego,
Chicago, Cleveland, Washington,
Philadelphia
Politico
Jews Sans Frontieres.
blogspot.com
Bloomberg
Salon
Rawstory.com
Prosebeforehos
Politicker.com
Happiness project
styleblazer.com
Bossip
JPOST
Wired.com
InTheseTimes
NPR
NewsBusters.org
Radaris
sovereignman.com
nextround.net
current.com/../Starbucks Moms
Huff Post
Hindustan Times linked from WaPo
and grows Daily.
Alternet, the first, and Bloomberg may have stopped. The hacks may not be officially sanctioned by the Sites, but caused by people who have access to the code.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
KadeKo, you libs have got to learn how to extract your heads from your butts and read between the lines. Legacy costs on the big three will drive production overseas and all Obama did with the bailouts is kick the can down the road to buy union votes for 2012 at taxpayer expense.
This might come as a shock to you but there are alternative news sources that do a much better job reporting the news and the facts than the main stream Obama accomplice media.
"The Romney campaign has defended the claim, saying they are not claiming that jobs are "moving" to China but that additional jobs are being created there.
Chrysler does have plans to start Jeep production in China but for the Chinese market. "We are working to establish a global enterprise and previously announced our intent to return Jeep production to China, the world's largest auto market, in order to satisfy local market demand, which would not otherwise be accessible," Marchionne wrote in his blog post"
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57542594/chrysler-ceo-jeep-not-movin...
mchaun wrote: ANYHOW ROMNEY, ROMNEY'S AD AND ROMNEY"S MEDIA FRIENDS SAID--"JEEP IS MOVING ALL ITS PRODUCTION TO CHINA."
Best I can tell this is something that was said at a campaign rally not in an ad, no matter I never mentioned this statement anyway, so don't put words in my mouth. I merely point out what in the end could very well be the long term plans for Fiat and Chrysler. No CEO in the world would drop a bombshell like this even if it were the plan for next year. Truth is your desperate for a gotcha, go to the source of most of the lies and you will be in Obama's camp, don't mind the stench of the rotting corpses, it just business as usual.
"I'm with Abe" of course you are, often wrong!
"partisan politics wrote:
KadeKo, you libs have got to learn how to extract your heads from your butts and read between the lines. Legacy costs on the big three will drive production overseas and all Obama did with the bailouts is kick the can down the road to buy union votes for 2012 at taxpayer expense.
This might come as a shock to you but there are alternative news sources that do a much better job reporting the news and the facts than the main stream Obama accomplice media.
"The Romney campaign has defended the claim, saying they are not claiming that jobs are "moving" to China but that additional jobs are being created there.
Chrysler does have plans to start Jeep production in China but for the Chinese market. "We are working to establish a global enterprise and previously announced our intent to return Jeep production to China, the world's largest auto market, in order to satisfy local market demand, which would not otherwise be accessible," Marchionne wrote in his blog post"
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57542594/chrysler-ceo-jeep-not-movin...
October 31, 2012 - 7:54 pm"
This makes about the 5th or 6th iteration of your Boy's disgusting backpedaling.
All of your Rat scrambling will not take back a single word-
ROMNEY AND HIS ADS SAID THAT JEEP WAS MOVING ALL ITS PRODUCTION TO CHINA AND IT'S A STINKING LIE!!!!!
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
Yep. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Romney and his ads said that Jeep was moving all its production to China. That is a fekking lie. People in Ohio follow this stuff a lot more than I do, and a lot more than PartisanPol does.
PS And the day that Newsbusters is one of the top 100 places for me to get media crit is the day I'll eat my hat. They're a bunch of partisan hacks.
mchaun wrote:
"ROMNEY AND HIS ADS SAID THAT JEEP WAS MOVING ALL ITS PRODUCTION TO CHINA AND IT'S A STINKING LIE!!!!!"
Moving jobs to China, putting new jobs in China? It's a distinction without a difference. The fact is, a once great American automobile company is no longer American and Americans become a bigger consumer of automobiles and a smaller producer. Cost to the taxpayer: 1.3B and what do we have to show for it?
mchaun wrote:
"You mean like he did after 9/11??? "
So ... he should have gone? He shouldn't have gone? He should have done the flyover? He shouldn't have done the flyover?
If he goes he gets criticized for disruption.
If he doesn't go he gets criticized for not caring.
If he flys over he gets criticized for not caring.
If he doesn't fly over he gets criticized for not caring.
Face it, mchaun. There is NOTHING the President could have done with respect to Katrina that would have made you happy.
mchaun wrote:
"As usual, poor eggie's Dementia muddled mind has gone completely off the rails again!!"
I'll let the President's words speak for themselves:
"Forces from the 82nd Airborne Division awaited orders to deploy and I was prepared to give them. But we had a problem. The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prohibited active duty military from conducting enforcement within the United States ...On Thursday morning, Day Four, ... the governor did not want to give up authority to the federal government.... Day Six, a call from Baton Rouge came in to the White House. The governor had declined. I was exasperated. I had spent three days trying to persuade the governor. It had been a waste of time. At 10:00 a.m. I stepped into the Rose Garden to announce the deployment of more than seven thousand active-duty troops to New Orleans – WITHOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT POWERS (my emphasis). I was anxious about the situation. If they got caught in a crossfire, it would be my fault. But I decided that sending troops with diminished authority was better than not sending them at all."
@ Longfeather: You wrote - "Those who like to be seen being good find it easy to go thru their goods and get clothes and canned goods, not that they might not be needed"
Tell that to the people impacted by Sandy who are without food and coats...