Friday News Roundup - Domestic
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-08-03/friday-news-roundup-domestic
The Federal Reserve said Wednesday that the economy was weaker but took no new steps to help. The House and Senate remained at loggerheads over whether to extend the Bush-era tax cuts. Presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney returned from a week-long overseas trip. And Chick-fil-A fans and critics took to the streets following anti-gay marriage comments by the company's president. Greg Ip of The Economist, Julie Hirshfeld Davis of Bloomberg News and Chris Cillizza of The Washington Post join Diane for analysis of the week's top national news stories.
Guests
Chris Cillizza
author of The Fix, a Washington Post politics blog, managing editor of PostPolitics.com and author of a new book, "The Gospel According to The Fix."
Julie Hirschfeld Davis
congressional correspondent for Bloomberg News.
Greg Ip
U.S. economics editor for The Economist and author of "The Little Book of Economics: How the Economy Works in the Real World."
Friday News Roundup Video
Following the unauthorized release of details about the Osama bin Laden raid, the Senate Intelligence Committee backed a bill last week intended to curb security leaks. Chris Cillizza, political blogger for The Washington Post, said the measure limits the number of national security officals who are authorized to speak to the news media. Greg Ip, economics editor for The Economist, said one of the effects of the bill is that reporters might seek less reliable and less knowledgable sources of information for their stories. "The public might end up less informed than before," Ip said.
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Mike
Give me a break! Your comments aren't personal? Spare me your indignance and lecture. If extremist comments are made they need to be called extremist. Obama is not a socialist or a fascist. These are extreme "positions" and those who make them are extremist. If the comments are made and want you want to take my response as "personal" - Go right ahead. If some one has the gall to make the comments than you shouldn't whine about my retort.
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"Mike
Give me a break! Your comments aren't personal? Spare me your indignance and lecture. If extremist comments are made they need to be called extremist. Obama is not a socialist or a fascist. These are extreme "positions" and those who make them are extremist. If the comments are made and want you want to take my response as "personal" - Go right ahead. If some one has the gall to make the comments than you shouldn't whine about my retort."
I think you have me confused with someone else. I have never made the contention that Obama is a fascist or socialist. I in fact feel the same way you do about people who hold these views. He is neither.
We know that the end is near when conservatives begin waxing poetic!
So let Romney do what his father did- release way more than 2 years of tax returns...
O.K and where does the "garbage" from the right lead? There is much more stench coming from the right than the left. Limbaugh, Palin, Bachman have slung far more dangerous and damaging detritus .
In what way is Romney going to be damaged by manning-up and releasing his tax returns?
An accusation of "beating my "wife" and abusing my children is REALLY comparable. Great example of right-wing logic.
So let Romney do what his father did- release way more than 2 years of tax returns...
O.K and where does the "garbage" from the right lead? There is much more stench coming from the right than the left. Limbaugh, Palin, Bachman have slung far more dangerous and damaging detritus .
In what way is Romney going to be damaged by manning-up and releasing his tax returns?
An accusation of "beating my "wife" and abusing my children is REALLY comparable. Great example of right-wing logic.
The butt or buttocks is located at the lower end of the spinal column and above the thighs.
Once the boisterous public is sufficiently stupid enough to rant and sniggle endlessly with each other about the minor and meaningless points of any given issue, this public is sufficiently subjugated and neutralized to render it impotent and inconsequential. This should be bannered above any comments section.
A few points:
1) I’m no fan of conspiracy theories, so I share the skepticism about the caller’s “elephant in the room” comment that businesses are deliberately not hiring, and are holding on to their profits in order to defeat the President. On the other hand, if hiring suddenly jumps, if business expenditures and investments suddenly soar, immediately after Romney wins (assuming he does) or after he takes office (ditto), I’d call that very suspicious!
2) Regarding the cause of the Great Recession: I agree that “there’s plenty of blame to go around”, but that doesn’t negate the talk about “failed policies of the past” and how the Republicans want to return to them. The issue isn’t partisan, but philosophical (or ideological). Those failed policies were almost entirely conservative. Yes, Clinton signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, and the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which were among the root causes of our problems (including ending Glass-Steagall, de-regulating the market in such “innovative instruments” as those derivatives and credit default swaps, and which allowed creation of the “toxic” mortgages that started the economic “meltdown”). But look at the sponsors of these Acts - all but one were Republicans! These laws were passed in 1999, when that party controlled Congress. And, of course, Bush the Second continued and enthusiastically embraced the philosophy of mindless deregulation (as contrasted with the intelligent version) that was behind all of this. So, yes, Romney and the GOP want to return us to the failed policies of the past.
TO BE CONTINUED
PART TWO
3) About Chik-Fil-A: Yes, it’s wrong for mayors (or any government officials) to talk of “banning” Chik-Fil-A. However loathsome that company’s support for anti-gay bigotry and discrimination, it (and its President) have the same First Amendment rights as the rest of us. They can express their views, and support their political positions, without fear of government reprisal.
On the other hand, those who disagree with Chik-Fil-A have an equal right to express it, and the right to boycott its “food”. After all, why should anyone who opposes anti-gay bigotry and discrimination provide that company with money? We can take our dollars elsewhere.
Note the conservatives’ hypocrisy on this one, though. They didn’t object to boycotts when the target was people or companies that supported gay rights. Just ask Ellen DeGeneres, or J.C. Penney’s! And they have no trouble denying others their First Amendment rights, such as by trying to ban Mosques throughout the country, or by asserting only Christians (the “right” kind of Christians) should even be in government. Yup, they regularly show their “respect for the Constitution”!
Oh, and I won’t be “joining” the boycott, for a simple reason. I haven’t eaten at Chik-Fil-A for decades. Why? Their “food” stinks!
paradigm shift on August 2, 2012 @ 10:29 am wrote: “Top news stories this week”
Except for the fact that most of what you spewed is false! Care to provide some links to backup your nonsense? (And I mean each and everyone of your “stories”.)
As for Senator Reid: yes, condemn his remarks. Just be sure you do the same for similar (completely baseless) remarks made by Republi-Cons! (You know, stuff like “death panels”, the “birther” claims, the mindless employment of “Socialism!” as a general epithet, and just about everything you write!) After all, Romney engaged in the same kind of conduct, using it against his fellow GOP candidates during the debates, and they returned the favor!
Oh, and what media do you listen to? The ones I watch have consistently pointed out that Reid has no evidence to support his hearsay, and have condemned him for it!
paradigm shift on August 2, 2012 @ 10:29 am wrote: “Top news stories not being covered”
Again, proof please!
(Oh, and it would be nice if you at least waited for the show to air before posting Comments!)
“Top news stories not being covered”
The liberal thought processes are so delusional that it's next to impossible to communicate. The "top news stories not being covered" was obviously a subjective view of what is important and they are right on.. Maybe you get excited about the Kardashians, sorry to disappoint but they are of little consequence. The beautiful example of the danger of the "phone call" went over the heads of the respondents so completely that it was comical, at the end of it they did not even know who said what and why, the only thing they were sure of is that they were offended LOL.
Hyperbolic statements about Nazis, socialist takeovers, or the illuminati help no one. Neither do personal attacks.
I feel like if the internet were a parking lot and you were all given crude implements like bats and crowbars you would kill each other.
There are two discussions every day on the Diane Rehms show website and it would be refreshing to see a moderator on the board keep the trolls at bay. This goes for both sides, here.
Talk to each other like you're physically standing next to them. Talk to each other like you're not allowed to raise your voice - also known as keeping it a debate or conversation rather than an argument.
Chris Cillizza: I was really taken aback by your minimizing of Dan Cathy's actions (not speech) and McConnell's speech (not actions). Cathy has contributed millions to organizations who clearly want to rid the world of LGBTs whether by reprogramming sexual orientation, marginalizing from the rest of society or extermination. Your comment of just don't shop there is glib and trivializes this issue. You have access to investigate just how mean spirited these groups behave. They are no better than KKK but operate as Christian. Chick-fil-A clearly uses religion to attract customers because of its family values but covers up some very irresponsible actions that Christ would abhor and repudiate. McConnell may not be working to kill the US economy, but his words have emboldened and enabled others who have been on record as doing so. Rights of speech may be free but words matter and have consequences, and the speaker deserves to be tied to their words until their actions demonstrate otherwise. Overall I usually enjoy your comments but was very disturbed by them today. I seldom make an effort to contact anyone.
mchaun wrote:
"partisan politics wrote:
Yesterday, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) issued guidance" to states that could undermine the work requirements introduced in the 1996 welfare reform. The HHS guidance explains how states can seek "waivers" of work requirements for recipients of the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)program. But there has been no change in the TANF law, no proposal from the Obama administration to change policy, and no basis in statute for the changes
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/07/obama_administration_undermi...
July 13, 2012 - 1:26 pm"
Wow!!! First day on the DR Blog and already proved yourself to be a Liar, Bigot, Racist and Bully.
Every word in your comment is a GD Lie. You ought to be more careful in who you quote, you Stupid SOB!!
The waiver is authorized in Section 402 in which States are encouraged to experiment with alternative processes that lead to better outcomes.
These waivers will be allowed in tests to find ways to improve employability of Parents and will be conducted within extremely tight limits, close supervision and accountability and subject to instant termination.
I implore the DR Commenters to read the Memo and decide for themselves.
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/policy/im-ofa/2012/im201203/im201203...
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
July 13, 2012 - 2:55 pm
I repeat my Comment.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
partisan politics on August 2, 2012 @ 11:24 pm wrote: A very sad day for freedom loving tax payers.”
Tell me, why is it “a very sad day” for freedom when men and women are allowed to combine together in a group to obtain greater economic wealth and benefits”?
I don’t hear conservatives scream when corporations are formed for exactly the same purpose.
Oh, is it because this union will be paid out of taxes? What about those “no-bid, sweetheart” contracts Halliburton and company regularly receive?
In short, if “collectivism” is bad, why are corporations good?
(And just to be clear: I don’t think there’s anything inherently “evil” in either unions or corporations. Like anything else run by human beings, they can be misused and abused - but that truth applies to both!)
partisan politics on August 3, 2012 @ 9:51 am wrote: “Ever since the first liberals started buying Japanese cars in the late 70's and early 80's. . . . In a perfect world we would have totally open free trade and foreign products would gather dust on store shelves.”
And the mindless ideology just keeps on coming.
I purchased my first foreign car (an Audi) not because of price, but because it was better made than the American alternatives. That has continued to be true. Detroit lost this “battle” because they were consistently “behind the curve”, fighting every attempt to improve their cars' safety, reliability, mileage, pollution control (etc.), while Europe and Japan quietly got the job done!
Forgive me if I think driving a car that spews less poison into our air might be patriotic.
As for “free trade”: that’s one of the reasons Chinese goods flood the market!
(Oh, and I try never to buy Chinese products. It’s rather hard these days.)
Of course, given how many “foreign cars” are actually made in the U.S.A., I question the relevance of that Washington Times story you put so much stock in. (And who owns that paper, by the way? Oh that’s right - a Korean!)
Besides, I thought allowing consumers to choose their products on the “free market” was something conservatives championed!
(Of course, this has nothing to do with the issue of American companies going off-shore.)
nohoplophobe on August 3, 2012 @ 11:15 am wrote: “The stench of liberal hypocrisy precedes them, the response was good enough to draw that conclusion.”
Mike Sergeant asked a simple and cogent question ("Where exactly did Pasty say that she drove a Japanese car?”), which you utterly failed to answer.
Those of us who can read without ideological and partisan blinders know the reason: She never said it!
Thanks for demonstrating (again) that when it comes to truth, the hypocrisy is yours.
brooks2010 on August 3, 2012 @ 11:29 am wrote: “I wonder though do people that support gay marriage, and wish to institute a boycott of the restaurant chain, have the right to harm the employees that work there.”
Oh, so now we have an obligation to buy a product, no questions asked?
Go tell that to the employees who lost their jobs when the Edsell flopped, or “New Coke”.
People have the right to patronize any business they want. If I want to eat fat rich, high calorie, Big Mac’s and Quarter Pounders (instead of Chik-Fil-A’s product), that’s my business.
Similarly, if people want to frequent Chik-Fil-A because they oppose gay marriage, then we who support gay marriage have an equal right not to.
If you’re so concerned about the employees, tell Chik-Fil-A to stay out of politics! (Of course, I still won’t eat there - I don’t like its “product”.)
partisan politics on August 3, 2012 @ 2:29 pm wrote: “The liberal thought processes are so delusional that it's next to impossible to communicate. . . . Maybe you get excited about the Kardashians, sorry to disappoint but they are of little consequence.”
Looking in the mirror again, are we?
You know, if you ever manage to write something that contains a coherent train of thought, actual facts, no false assumptions, and flows in a logical sequence from the initial premises (supported by evidence) to a valid conclusion, I’ll probably die of shock!
Meanwhile, let me respond to this latest rant with the only dignity it deserves: The only Cardassians I know of are from Star Trek!
;-)
To mchaun, writing on August 3, 2012 @ 4:33 pm:
What are you babbling about? Clearly that Comment of yours belongs to a story that aired in July, not here!
While I have no love for Mr. “partisan politics”, I at least try to make my Comments relevant to the story they’re posted on.
And please temper your language, unlike Eric Zehnder I have no desire to see the “NPR Nanny” come to work here!
Ciao.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_Barrel_Old_Country_Store
During the 1990s, the company was the subject of controversy for its official stance against gay and lesbian employees and for discriminatory practices against African American and female employees. The company's treatment of minority customers was also criticized; patrons complained of racially segregated seating and service quality. Following an agreement with the US Department of Justice and the implementation of non-discrimination policies, the company has focused on improving minority representation and civic involvement, particularly in the black community. Company shareholders added sexual orientation to the company's non-discrimination policy in 2002.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
"Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
To mchaun, writing on August 3, 2012 @ 4:33 pm:
What are you babbling about? Clearly that Comment of yours belongs to a story that aired in July, not here!
While I have no love for Mr. “partisan politics”, I at least try to make my Comments relevant to the story they’re posted on.
And please temper your language, unlike Eric Zehnder I have no desire to see the “NPR Nanny” come to work here!
Ciao.
August 3, 2012 - 5:24 pm"
Shrudlu, you are hopeless!!
If you weren't so quick to jump on me, you might have noticed that partisan repeated the Welfare claim even though I took pains to refute it in July.
As to language, I've been called a Communist, Fascist, an admirer of Stalin, babbler, among others and of course ANTI_SEMITE!!!
Not to mention the despicable filth lavishly and continuously shoveled on My beloved President on this very Site.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
DR and her panel think Romney is trying to forget his overseas trip. Really? He criticized the security at the London Olympics, just as all the British tabloids did last week. He was cheered in Israel and in Poland. Well, if you listen to NPR's Coked-Up Roberts, the supposedly unbiased "journalist" working for an outfit getting federal funding, the Poland visit couldn't be about Romney praising Poland’s free-market policies that helped the country break from the doctrine of Communism. Nope, it must be about appealing to the U.S. white vote. Ah, NPR, the liberal echo chamber.
“Now, it’s a smaller percentage of the population, of the voting population than it used to be white voters are still much more Republican than any other group in the electorate. They went for McCain in 2008 by 55 percent, and I think that, you know, getting those ethnic voters excited is really what Romney has in mind here. It’s more for the folks at home, the descendants of the people that he will be speaking to in Poland." C.R.
mchaun wrote: "My beloved President"
You have got to be kidding!
"partisan politics wrote:
mchaun wrote: "My beloved President"
You have got to be kidding!
August 3, 2012 - 6:15 pm"
Whatsa matter, Peepee, still stinging because I reminded the Blog that you were a lying POS in July and are still a lying POS in August?
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
PS. Budgets, Deficits etc are Public Records, what's to investigate??
Another typical left wing loon embarrasses themselves at a Tucson, Arizona Chick-fil-A....and then gets fired from his job. Well, he is qualified to work at NPR.
http://now.msn.com/executive-loses-job-over-video-ambush-at-chick-fil-a/
mchaun wrote:" lying POS "
I deliberately put that comment in with you in mind, to pull your chain. If your claiming Obama is not trying to undermine the welfare reform act your the " lying POS"
Once again a Friday panel that leans over backwards to more far charitable to the Republicans and big business than they deserve. How naïve can Ip and Cillizza be to believe that “money-making businessmen and businesswomen” will hire new employees now to make themselves more money? It would be worth their while to fan enough discontent and lose a little income now if they can turn the election to the Republicans, get themselves tax breaks only a few months hence and then do the hiring?
And Cillizza is even more naïve to believe that McConnell and his allies want to make Barack Obama a one-term president only for principled reasons. Opposition parties in the past have been equally committed to their views without the sheer bloody-mindedness of today’s GOP.