Friday News Roundup - Domestic
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-07-27/friday-news-roundup-domestic
President Barack Obama spoke out forcefully against gun violence for the first time following the Colorado movie theater shooting. Presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney outlined his plans for a more aggressive foreign policy just before he began a weeklong trip to Britain, Israel and Poland. The Senate narrowly passed an extension of Bush-era tax cuts for the middle class, which House Republicans have said they will not accept. Ari Shapiro of NPR, Karen Tumulty of The Washington Post and syndicated columnist Steve Roberts join Diane for analysis of the week's top national news stories.
Guests
Ari Shapiro
White House correspondent for NPR.
Karen Tumulty
national political reporter for The Washington Post.
Steve Roberts
syndicated columnist and journalism professor at George Washington University.
Friday News Roundup Video
The panel discussed the legacy and career of astronaut Sally Ride, who died Monday at age 61. Ride's family disclosed that she was gay in an obituary. "I don't often put on the designated homosexual hat, but as a kid who grew up without a lot of gay role models on the national stage, I think it's incredible that teenagers wondering what it means to be gay could now know that it could mean you're the first American woman in space," Ari Shapiro, White House correspondent for NPR, said. Steve Roberts, syndicated columnist and professor at George Washington University, said it's important to respect Ride's decision to come out in her own private way. Karen Tumulty, national political reporter for The Washington Post, said she met Ride and was struck by how she wanted to make her extraordinary accomplishments seem ordinary.
Ride appeared on The Diane Rehm Show in 2010 to talk about science education. Listen to that conversation here.
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nohoplophobe on July 26, 2012 @ 11:26 pm wrote: “They seem to stand for absolutely nothing but failed ideas, unsustainable programs, extreme hypocrisy and the destruction of the Constitution.”
Really? Because we all know (Watergate) how much (Iran-Contra) Republi-Cons (the Patriot Act) support (warrantless wiretaps in violation of FISA and the Fourth Amendment, declarations in signing statements of unbridled presidential power to ignore any law he dislikes) the Constitution.
And, of course, they all believe in (forced vaginal probes) limited government, and respect (declaring that only Christians, fundamentalist Christians, should be in government) our religious freedom guaranteed by the Constitution!
There’s plenty more, but it’s late.
Ciao, for now.
I just listened to the Friday news roundup on my Nook tonight. I, like two guests that called into the show, am outraged at Karen Tumulty’s reference to the “We tried our plan and it worked” Obama “quote.” Since this is supposed to be a news show and Tumulty is supposed to be a journalist, “reporting” that Obama is being pummeled over the remarks without mentioning that they were distorted is (1) incomplete (2) sloppy and (3)irresponsible. For the record, Obama was comparing Bush and Clinton tax policy and their relative effects on job creation. The Plan that we have tried was Clinton’s tax rates. Here’s a media matter’s link with Obama’s actual words (boxed).
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/07/26/we-tried-our-plan-fox-limbaugh-a...
American journalists are also expected to respect the conventions of the English language. With the “You didn’t build that” truncation, the actual antecedent to the demonstrative pronoun “that” is edited away. Thus , you didn’t build roads and bridges (that bring customers to your business) becomes you didn’t build your business. Why isn’t this just politics? No. I agree with the show’s last caller. This is just lying!
Tumulty also claims equivalent behavior on the part of the Democrats. I both challenge and defy anyone to produce examples this blatant. Romney’s very first political ad was to edit “John McCain said and I quote” out of a statement about the 2008 economy and present it as Obama’s statement. This is just lying. The Shirley Sharrod “controversy” was just lying!
The American people are starting to understand that those who lie to them are disrespecting them. Beware of giving people who will lie to you power over you. You can imagine how they will treat you once they do not need you. Those Washington Journalists who are not calling out the lies may have great contacts, but they are of no service to the American people.
The meaning of the phrase "well-regulated" in the 2nd amendment
The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:
1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."
1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."
1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."
1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."
1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."
1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so.
What the Founding Fathers Meant by the "Militia"
Tenche Coxe: "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." – Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
Tench Coxe: "Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American... [T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.", Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
Tench Coxe: "As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms." in "Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution," under the pseudonym "A Pennsylvanian" in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789.
Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts: "Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." (spoken during floor debate over the Second Amendment, I Annals of Congress at 750, August 17, 1789.)
Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts: "What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty." Rep. of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress at 750 (August 17, 1789).
Alexander Hamilton: "...that standing army can never be formidable (threatening) to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in the use of arms." (Federalist Paper #29)
Alexander Hamilton: "...that standing army can never be formidable (threatening) to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in the use of arms." (Federalist Paper #29)
Alexander Hamilton: "Little more can be aimed at with respect to the people at large than to have them properly armed and equipped." (Id) {responding to the claim that the militia itself could threaten liberty}" There is something so far-fetched, and so extravagant in the idea of danger of liberty from the militia that one is at a loss whether to treat it with gravity or raillery (mockery). (Id)
Alexander Hamilton: "The project of disciplining all the militia of the United States is as futile as it would be injurious, if it were capable of being carried into execution. A tolerable expertness in military movements is a business that requires time and practice. It is not a day, or even a week, that will suffice for the attainment of it. To oblige the great body of the yeomanry, and of the other classes of the citizens, to be under arms for the purpose of going through military exercises and evolutions, as often as might be necessary to acquire the degree of perfection which would entitle them to the character of a well-regulated militia, would be a real grievance to the people, and a serious public inconvenience and loss. It would form an annual deduction from the productive labor of the country, to an amount which, calculating upon the present numbers of the people, would not fall far short of the whole expense of the civil establishments of all the States. To attempt a thing which would abridge the mass of labor and industry to so considerable an extent, would be unwise: and the experiment, if made, could not succeed, because it would not long be endured. Little more can reasonably be aimed at, with respect to the people at large, than to have them properly armed and equipped" – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No.2
Patrick Henry: "The people have a right to keep and bear arms." (Elliott, Debates at 185)
Patrick Henry: "Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in our possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?, 3 Elliot Debates 168-169.
Patrick Henry: "The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun." 3 Elliot, Debates at 386.
Thomas Jefferson: "And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms... The tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.", letter to William S. Smith, 1787, in S. Padover (Ed.), Jefferson, On Democracy (1939), p. 20.
Thomas Jefferson In his Commonplace Book, Jefferson quotes Cesare Beccaria from his seminal work, On Crimes and Punishment: “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
Etaoin Shrdlu let's just cut to the chase, you don't particularly like this country and in particular have nothing but contempt for it's founding principals of individual freedom. All the twisting a contorting of the Constitution to try and torture out a meaning compatible with your statist views is obvious.
Reading your responses and finding intellectual dishonesty in the first couple of sentences renders everything thereafter useless and suspect, so I don't bother. I only respond because some fool wandering in might think you offer something of substance and I can't let that stand.
I’ll try again. Could you please at least list the link to media matter’s , which gives Obama’s actual words in the “We tried our plan and it worked.” controversy?
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/07/26/we-tried-our-plan-fox-limbaugh-a...
Lynn Morlier
twocents68 wrote: "Could you please at least list the link to media matter’s"
Your addressing me? mediamatters are liberal slime throwers that have lost any credibility they might have had. The "you didn't build that" and the Sherod controversy are blatant examples of liberal mindsets. You need to seek out the complete Sherod (video) speech and come back and tell me if any white person could have gotten away saying that. The "we tried our plan" I haven't examined it closely but from what I know Obama was taking credit for Clintons M.O. back in the 90's, Obama is comparing himself to the way Clinton dealt with a republican congress and the economy to Obama's own governance, sorry but no comparison is possible, night and day different.
Shirly Sherrod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAWsZJkaFaU&feature=related
Shirly Sherrod is a racist, I am adding this separatly because I dont have time to restructure my last post.
If any white person in government said what she said " I won't help him as much as I could because he's white" they would be out in a second. The fact that Obama dumped her as fast as he did it is because the racism is obvious. To this day I am perplexed that there is any controversy over her firing. The "out of context" became the news not what she actually said. Bit of a hurry today, I do more than just post here.