The Debate Over Cuts To The Food Stamp Program

The Debate Over Cuts To The Food Stamp Program

Congress is considering a deficit reduction measure that would eliminate food stamps for nearly two million Americans. Debate over the cost of feeding America's poor.

One in seven Americans receives food stamps, a number that's up sharply since the financial crisis. Most experts agree unemployment and underemployment have contributed to the number of people in need of food assistance. The U.S. House of Representatives is considering a measure that would cut nearly two million people from the program and cause 280,000 children to lose free meals. Anti-poverty advocates call it unconscionable. But supporters of the cuts say the food stamp program is inefficient and many people are receiving benefits who are not truly in need. Diane and her guests discuss the cost of feeding America's poor.

Guests

Jim Weill

president of the Food Research and Action Center.

Jerry Hagstrom

founder and executive editor of The Hagstrom Report, and columnist for National Journal.

Douglas Besharov

professor, University of Maryland School of Public Policy; senior fellow, the Atlantic Council of the United States; former Welfare Studies scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

Comments

Please familiarize yourself with our Code of Conduct and Terms of Use before posting your comments.

Reagan tried to cut food stamps in the 80s, which led to falling food prices and so many farm bankruptcies that Congress had to reinstate them.

July 25, 2012 - 11:17 am

Good point edwards! how can we ever address and change this totally out of control government dependency mindset that grips our government and the people who feed off of it. Farmers that need this support are just as guilty as the irresponsible in life obese with their overflowing shopping carts of processed foods. The umbilical cord must be cut, but who in government has the guts to cut it.

July 25, 2012 - 10:55 pm

Why do you show a black person to illustrate the subject in this program when most people on public assistance and getting food stamps are white?

July 26, 2012 - 7:24 am

I look forward to the heartless comments a discussion on food stamps is sure to generate.

Some people will say they must be cut, because it is immoral to raise taxes on the rich.

Some people will say the folks that get them are just lazy and they should get off their butts and get themselves one of those nonexistent jobs. Im sure that's what Jesus would say.

The reality of the problem is that we have two political parties in this country that are directly, and solely responsible for the rotten economy in this country that is causing so many of my fellow Americans to need this help. Between the two of them they wrote all the laws that made it easy to ship our jobs overseas. They deregulated the banksters so they could rob us blind. These two parties refuse to raise the minimum wage. They have made it pretty much impossible to for young jobless, or underemployed people to discharge their oppressive college debt.

We even have one party that wants to stop women from being able to terminate pregnancies that they either don't want or cant afford.

So we have two political parties that have done everything they could to crush the working classes in this country and now they want to start taking away the life support systems from poor they have done everything in their power to create.

The selfish powers in this country have worked at getting us to this point for close to two generations now. They are so close now to having a country kings and serfs that they can taste it. They are now going in for the final kill.

Many people who look down their noses at those who get food stamps now, will soon need them themselves, because the looters of this country aint done yet.

This is disgusting, and immoral. But many in this country just don't care about the poor anymore. As long as they still got theirs, nothing else matters.

July 26, 2012 - 7:58 am

Conservatives are okay with taxpayers paying $77,000 for Mitt Romney show pony,but are horrified and in a hissy fit when it comes to human beings.

July 26, 2012 - 8:14 am

From our earliest colonial times there have been overseers for the poor and indigent. During periods of hunger in New Jersey c. 1763-68 other colonies sent food and seed grain. Is it American to feed our poor? It has been for 400 years.
Eisenhower's Farewell Address warned us of the dystopia we live today. For every jet aircraft bought—a school will not be built. For every naval vessel—a highway will not be built.
President Eisenhower warned us of the unwarranted influence of the Military Industrial (Congressional) Complex. No one listened.

July 26, 2012 - 8:32 am

How can anyone make the argument that the welfare system is not being abused in the extreme when you read statistics like this.

The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama's recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.

The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.

http://news.investors.com/article/617233/201207061636/disability-climbs-...

July 26, 2012 - 9:02 am

Whatsright wrote: "Why do you show a black person to illustrate the subject in this program when most people on public assistance and getting food stamps are white?"

The D.R. show is not above the fray when it comes to divisive politics. Baiting pictures used to highlight show topics is not unusual, the picture shown a couple days ago about gun control comes to mind. Having said that, black people per capita receive more government welfare than any other race so a logical argument could be made to use a black person as a typical welfare recipient.

July 26, 2012 - 9:46 am

If the T-Party cuts food stamps to kids and the starving,would you please stop pounding us with the propaganda of " We are a Christian Nation"?? Cause clearly we are not.

July 26, 2012 - 9:50 am

Regarding "Edwards" comment about food stamps and farm bankruptcies in the '80s...a debt crisis gets the lion's share of blame, not an attempt to end food stamp programs. Farmers back then were highly leveraged because commodity prices and land values were rapidly rising and many farmers borrowed lots of money at very high interest rates. When Paul Volker and the Fed clamped down on the money supply to try to beat inflation, many farmers could no longer service their debt and had to sell out.

July 26, 2012 - 9:52 am

In North Carolina, 1 in 4 children are poor. Many “at risk” schools have close to 100% of students receiving free lunches. I personally have seen children pack up their lunches to take home so that they may feed their families. Even the suggestion to reduce the meager assistance given to struggling families is appalling. Children need to eat! Are they to blame for their situation?

July 26, 2012 - 9:56 am

equalizer wrote:
In North Carolina, 1 in 4 children are poor. Many “at risk” schools have close to 100% of students receiving free lunches. I personally have seen children pack up their lunches to take home so that they may feed their families. Even the suggestion to reduce the meager assistance given to struggling families is appalling. Children need to eat! Are they to blame for their situation?

No their parents are, I also have seen with my own eyes people going to church food banks that are stocked by people that donate both food and money to a cause they believe in. Why is it so hard for people to understand that no one wants people to starve we just don't want the inefficient government to stick their collective nose in it. Religious organizations, community groups, and non-profits do it better and cheaper and go to the people in many cases instead of requiring them to go to you.

July 26, 2012 - 10:10 am

mnemecek ,how many times have you been to a church food bank? Do it better ? ABSOLUTELY INSANE.....

July 26, 2012 - 10:18 am

More baloney from the Right-Wing. We're not going broke. How about raising taxes on the rich, instead of punishing the poor (again)?

July 26, 2012 - 10:22 am

NC-Tom nails it again.

I'd add,
The bashing and stereotyping of welfare recipients is immoral, misguided, and very misleading.

"Culture of dependence" indeed. This falsehood (often racially charged) comes from a privileged bubble away from the real world.
Many avoid seeking help in the first place. The vast majority do not abuse the system. They do have aspirations and a strong desire to work... while facing some of the greatest opposition to economic mobility in the modern world.

It distracts from the truth that it's all about jobs and a living wage. Welfare is now almost completely limited to food (sometimes not enough), and even that is in block grants states plug their budget gaps with.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/us/welfare-limits-left-poor-adrift-as-...

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Or maybe not.

July 26, 2012 - 10:49 am

I am always impressed with how no one on your show seems to know a poor person--can you imagine living on, say, 22K a year with two or three kids? You might be above the poverty line but you struggle to pay your electric bill, school clothes, metro cards, and yes, food.
Why not look at such issues as Medicare fraud by providers, and not carp about tiny adjustments in how poor one needs to be.

July 26, 2012 - 10:26 am

How much did those 2 wars cost??? 2 trillion???? Let's stop electing presidents who go to war based on lies and hubris

July 26, 2012 - 10:26 am

It seems that if there are people on food stamps each year that do meet the requirements in order to actually Be on food stamps (abusing the system), that if congress were to focus on making the qualification process/renewal process more efficient, it would effectively serve the purpose of blanketed cuts without affecting those who need the system.

July 26, 2012 - 10:27 am

I think food stamps is a great program. I am a former recipient and appreciated receiving them for my family. However, I think there is room to cut spending. I have a family of seven and spend about $600 a month on food. A friend of mine received $1200 a month for food stamps for her family of seven a few years ago. Their benefit could have been cut in half, and they would still have eaten well.

July 26, 2012 - 10:30 am

I don't think farm prices are tied THAT much to food stamps (edwards) but I have been wrong before personally I would like to see a link

July 26, 2012 - 10:40 am

"Whatsright wrote:

Why do you show a black person to illustrate the subject in this program when most people on public assistance and getting food stamps are white?"

Dear Whatsright --- Just curious - where do you get your statistics from? Would like to verify if this is actual fact, or just someone's opinion.

July 26, 2012 - 10:34 am

The man that just said that there is no asset test on food stamps by the states, is just plain wrong. I was kicked off food stamps at the beginning of the year, even though I am unemployed and have no income at present. True, a car in MI. is not considered an asset, but how much money you have in a bank account are considered assets. In MI they lowered that amount to a laughable amount (something like $6000.00 as a single individual), and thereby threw me off the program. That money in the bank pays for rent, utilities, insurance, phone (yeah, that's right...I use a phone...how dare I, huh?). Please...get your commenters or "experts" to get their facts straight. At best, they could've adjusted my amount on the SNAP program, instead I was just kicked off. The idea that people are buying high end foods or unhealthy foods is a ruse to discredit the program. They simply have an anti-gov't bent, no matter what the facts are. They continue to demonize the poor and could care less whether they eat or not. Heartless and insincere.

July 26, 2012 - 10:34 am

You can't just get on food stamps because you have one bad month of unemployment or underemployment. You can't turn around and get food stamps the next day.

Getting income recertified for many means losing an entire day of work, and/or having to juggle picking up your kids up from school. The food stamp recipient has no control over the amount of time they have to spend at the public assistance office so they can have their interview and get recertified.

July 26, 2012 - 10:35 am

Diane, At the grocery store, the other day the family in front of me was paying with food stamps, when I left the store both parents were standing out front lighting cigarettes. In Maryland, they cost $6 a pack that is over $300 a month in health damaging tobacco. This money could go for food and everybody would better off, the parents, children, and taxpayers.

July 26, 2012 - 10:36 am

Hi,
I live in Missouri, and frequent a convenience store nearby which is located near low income housing.

Every day I see people using their EBT benefit to purchase single serving sodas, bags of potato chips, and sugary drinks.

I don't believe this is the best use of this subsidy nor is it financially prudent to buy single servings of anything.

How do we educate people regarding good fiscal choices.

Thanks,

Jeff

July 26, 2012 - 10:36 am

The food stamp program should be reformed to follow the WIC program in that recipients can use that "money" to purchase certain items - there is a hugh selection of items that fall under WIC. There is nothing wrong with reforming a program that doesn't work. If does not mean we want people to be hungry, but those people must make good choices and not take advantage of a program funded by taxpayers.

July 26, 2012 - 10:37 am

Please tell people that you can buy garden seeds and plants that produce food with their food stamps ref http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/rules/Legislation/about.htm

July 26, 2012 - 10:39 am

I used to think this too, Patsy, that Americans' behavior belies their claims to be a part of a Christian nation. Now my thinking has come to align more with a quote attributed to Gandhi: "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians, Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." Many Christians are Christ-like, but many seem to be about something else, usually self-righteousness. The Christians that seem to be trying to hijack the nation these days seem to be to be more of the self-righteous type.

July 26, 2012 - 10:41 am

nohoplophobe wrote:
"... Having said that, black people per capita receive more government welfare than any other race so a logical argument could be made to use a black person as a typical welfare recipient."

This is incorrect:

In fact, of all the people getting food stamps, almost twice as many households are white compared to black families & white households get more food stamps than both blacks & Hispanics put together:

"For 2010, Census data show the following for households that reported getting food stamp assistance during the year:
•49% were white (non-Hispanic); 26% were black or African American; and 20% were Hispanic (of any race)."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-01-18/fact-check-gingri...

The typical food stamp household is white and from a red state.

July 26, 2012 - 10:42 am

This is great if you have land, water, time, are able-bodied, and there is not a drought.

July 26, 2012 - 10:43 am

The Diane Rehm Show is produced by member-supported WAMU 88.5 in Washington DC.