Philip Houston and Michael Floyd: "Spy the Lie"
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-07-19/philip-houston-and-michael-floyd-spy-lie
Two former CIA agents explain how the techniques they used to catch terrorists and spies can be applied in our daily lives. How to spot a lie and get people to tell you the truth.
Guests
Philip Houston
25-year veteran of the CIA and authority on deception detection.
Michael Floyd
founder of Advanced Polygraph Services, and formerly with the CIA and National Security Agency.
Audio Excerpt: "Spy the Lie"
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Excerpted from SPY THE LIE: Former CIA Officers Teach You How to Detect Deception by Philip Houston, Michael Floyd, and Susan Carnicero (with Don Tennant). Copyright © 2012 by Philip Houston, Michael Floyd, Susan Carnicero and Don Tennant. All right reserved. Reprinted with permission.
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Interesting follow up to the Rubio hour...Of course I hardly ever lie, so there must be people out there lying dozens of times a day to balance it out. Caveat emptor.
Can you please ask your guests what they would conclude when a person refuses to respond, or evades when asked a direct question about their life.
If a lie detector has an 80-85% accuracy, and not all the lies are critical lies... how accurate are these methods?
It is dangerous for people to think they have a more or less sure way to spot lies and be wrong. Particularly people in positions of power but also people in important relationships. Humans crave certainty and will delude themselves to feel it.
In my completely anecdotal experience, I've seen more damage done by sincere, delusional, people than by liars. Liars at least sometimes remember the truth; the deluded's realities are distorted around their delusions.
(I, of course, am completely free of all self-delusions.)
Do your guests ever suffer from information overload? It has to be taxing on the mind to always be capable of seeing lies in the statements people make. How do your quests turn off the desire to use their techniques on the people care about or do they turn off that desire?
Ha! Rubio's not answering the q!
Would the agent be able to get the truth from junior senator marco rubio?
Everyone lies,
A mans lie is: he was at Freds helping him with his car when he was actually at the bar,
A womans lie is: It's your Baby
(Thanks Chris Rock)
Watching someone carefully when talking to them makes some nervous, other people get hostile.
I tried taking a university level justice studies class in interrogation, the instructor was a drug abuse counselor and thoroughly unsuitable because she couldn't articulate her skills, and the people she was use to dealing with were under her thumb. She dealt with her clients from a position of power and not with people who could walk away.
Then there is the micro-expression. I thought my seeing those were my imagination till the TV show. I took the interrogation class to try to make sense of what I was seeing but like I wrote that was a bust.
Far as 911, I must be one of the few people who breathed a sigh of release. It wasn't a mushroom cloud. Think suitcase nuke or cargo container. I'd been waiting for something since 1980 when my Lackland TI told us to keep an eye on the middle east. '93 wasn't much but it was the wake up call people ignored so we got another.
911 was only a slap, the countries loosing their heads over 911 was far more damaging.
Wow, do I ever agree with your guests. Noxious questioning creates a situation from which the subject wants to escape and if lying will work, they lie. In my experience low key conversation brings out the truth more often than not.
Presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney strikes me as being a habitual liar: a man suffused with phony outrage whose positions are distortions, whose responses to questions are most often elisions or misdirection rather than direct answers. Do the authors have any opinion regarding whether Romney is anything more than a greasy weasel?
These guys are lieing...
The biggest liar I ever met was a guy who always said "I swear to God, or on the Bible" etc.
Another sign is changing a story; like Pete Rose, I never bet on baseball, then later I did, but never when my team was playing and so on.
Diane,
I have been in the military since 2002 and been to many of the hotspots around the word involved in interrogation. One of the items that often comes up is the people can be "taught" to lie, i.e. trained to do the reverse of all the things your guests are looking for. This training can be undertaken via extensive repetition and mental exercises. What do your guests think of this and if required could they, themselves, train someone to fool their fellow peers in the profession?
Thank You.
JM
I was appalled at the manner in which Senator Rubio answered Diane's questions. He came across as arrogant and unnecessarily argumentative. After listening to the next segment with the former CIA agents telling how to spot a lie, I felt enlightened as to why Rubio answered her in the manner he did.
I felt that Diane had not researched some of her questions well, and looked unprepared and ill-informed. She asked the questions and Rubio did not pull any punches. She seemed to have an agenda, and a grudge that he did not support public funding of public broadcasting.
This wasn't the most interesting interview I ever heard, but one part did interest me. And that was Lance Armstrong.
First off, I'm really no Lance Armstrong fan and no fan of bicycle racing. But the statement by one of the guys on the program was revealing.
If the news is accurate (urine isn't the only thing that can be doctored), Armstrong has never failed a drug test. One of the fellows on the show stated that he doubted Armstrong's honesty. So which evidence do we finally accept: opinion or test results? This sounds like a variation on Obama's birth certificate.
But what I would like to know is: why aren't we interrogating prospective candidates for public office? Now THERE are some candidates! The answer must be money. Our politicians take money from the Elite to protect the Elite's interests. Obviously the Elite will protect their protectors in return.
So the former CIA guys have to direct virtually all their efforts towards what the Elite consider "small fry". Perhaps even money would sway interrogators???
Everybody's a suspect! LOL