Gary Knell
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-06-07/gary-knell
NPR recently announced a downturn in corporate sponsorship. The falloff in revenue has led to speculation about cuts in staff and programing. Gary Knell is NPR's president and CEO. He succeeded Vivian Schiller, who was ousted after the release of a tape in which an NPR executive disparaged conservatives and in the wake of firing Juan Williams. These incidents nearly cost public broadcasting its federal funding. Knell joins Diane to discuss NPR's future as it faces many challenges, including financing, competition for audience and changing technology.
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Gary Knell
president and CEO, NPR.

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ecgberht wrote: "I think I can help you mellifluous. ...
It is actually the LIBERAL AGENDA that has been skating for decades having a FREE platform on NPR."
Let me see if I understand you, ecgberht: You seem to believe that everything worthwhile can be monetized, and the markets are all-knowing and all-wise. Therefore, everything is for sale. Anything that can't justify itself in commercial terms should not exist. There is no such thing as a commons that deserves and demands protection and nurturing. State and national parks are natural settings for extractive industries; wildernesses are a waste of space.
I couldn't disagree more. "Earth isn't a planet we've inherited from our ancestors; we're borrowing it from our children." I note that the Repugnicants have borrowed the term "sustainability" from the environmental movement, but only use it to refer to budgets.
I also note you tacitly endorse the notions that corporations are people who have civil rights and that legislators have the right to sell things that don't belong to them in return for legal bribes. I guess "conservative" is code for supporting destruction, theft and corruption.
StLouis wrote:
"Those that go about their life with a specific bias generally view an alternate opinion as simply WRONG. It is not another point of view or another path to the summit."
Perfectly said, StLouis. As I have often said here, the viewpoint of the left seems to be, "you are entitled to my opinion".
mellifluous, when you use terms like "Repugnicants", in my book you don't deserve any reply at all, but since my mother raised me right, I will give you one anyway.
mellifluous wrote:
"Let me see if I understand you, ecgberht: You seem to believe that everything worthwhile can be monetized"
You conflate Public Radio with natural resources.
" also note you tacitly endorse the notions that corporations are people who have civil rights"
If you want to discuss CU v FEC, let's have at it. Explain to me how that case could have been decided differently.
"and that legislators have the right to sell things that don't belong to them in return for legal bribes."
And I said that where?
There is a lot of anger in your posts, mellifluous and not a lot of thought. I would not want to have your blood pressure.
Yesterday, NPR`s "Talk of the Nation" program had as it`s guest Mr.Richard Grenell,the fired gay Romney foreign affairs adviser. I almost fell out of my chair. He stated the usual right wing spiel,Obama is wrong.Everything Obama did Romney will rectify. American Exceptionalism,yada yada yada. But when he said Romney will end the Obama Wars,and restore the Bush diplomacy and negotiating tools,that PREVENT Wars,I WAS DUMBFOUND! What? Bush prevented Wars? Romney isn`t promising War with Iran? Of course Neal was a polite host and let the lies go.
That separates a true journalist,and a lackey,protecting their job.
I am a current listener in Arizona, and would financially support NPR, but I find the news reporting, topics, discussion panels, etc. to be biased. Across the board, I don't hear fair and accurate consideration or equal air time to all sides of the political or socio-economic spectrum.
To that end I don't believe that "public" radio is really that unless it does offer those considerations and equality in reporting, and therefore should not qualify for any use of Federal funds.
If NPR would provide balanced content, I would absolutely support it.
I am a current listener in Arizona, and would financially support NPR, but I find the news reporting, topics, discussion panels, etc. to be biased. Across the board, I don't hear fair and accurate consideration or equal air time to all sides of the political or socio-economic spectrum.
To that end I don't believe that "public" radio is really that unless it does offer those considerations and equality in reporting, and therefore should not qualify for any use of Federal funds.
If NPR would provide balanced content, I would absolutely support it.
As someone recently explained it at a cocktail party raising money for the arts, NPR is effectively a taxpayer-supported Democratic Super PAC.
It uses its funding from all sources to relentlessly articulate issues important to progressive Democrats - gay issues, women's issues, government-paid health care, public employee unions, environmentalism, pro-illegal immigration efforts private and public - over and over and over and over while then, sadly, then having no more room left to articulate conservative or Republican issues - government spending, government debt, selective enforcement of federal law, taxes, government intrusion and takeover of private markets, crony capitalism, etc.
It's all perfectly legal, the Supreme Court just ruled that it is: NPR is a Democratic Super PAC which channels its funding into overwhelmingly promoting Democratic Party political platform interests as "newsworthy issues", and Gary Knell now runs it.
I am a current listener in Arizona, and would financially support NPR, but I find the news reporting, topics, discussion panels, etc. to be biased. Across the board, I don't hear fair and accurate consideration or equal air time to all sides of the political or socio-economic spectrum.
To that end I don't believe that "public" radio is really that unless it does offer those considerations and equality in reporting, and therefore should not qualify for any use of Federal funds.
If NPR would provide balanced content, I would absolutely support it.
I don't know how Gary can say that there is no political agenda. Everything that involves people, involves their worldviews and their politics. It DOES color what's being communicated.
The least biased things I hear on NPR is the BBC World News and Car Talk...and that isn't saying much.
I just wanted to comment that there are very few organizations where the CEO takes comments and questions from the public-at-large. Thanks for interviewing Mr. Knell, Diane. I am thoroughly enjoying hearing about the inner-workings of NPR.
Sincerely,
Long-term, recurring, small-time donor
I've become convinced that the PBS/NPR funding models do not work in smaller communities. It's inefficient. I'm sure there are effective stations in rural areas or small cities. BUT what I witness in the Midwest is little to no local news generation, just rip and read or days old stories that the newspapers have already done. I started at public radio and moved to public TV before going into network news.
I've also lived in SF, Boston, Ann Arbor and had vibrant NPR stations that did great local news coverage. In small midwestern cities w/ public radio stations I see a churn of donation dollars to pay programming fees for the national shows and a churn to pay the local salaries of everyone at the station AND THAT IS NOT A GOOD USE OF FUNDING, especially when their local news generation is so poor. To pay all these staff salaries around the country doesn't make sense. Do you have a solution? My local station was once one of the best in the country. The first GM went on to run great NPR stations on the coasts and the folks here now make no effort to cover local news. Why should I donate when that's the situation? It's a sham. And yes, I've shared these views with them. They are misguidedly protecting their jobs. It's bureaucracy run amok.
You're placing the responsibility to hold NPR accountable for unbiased reporting on the listener?!?! Should I quit my job so I can notify you of all the times I hear things that don't consider topics from the other half's perspective?
If you're all about leadership, then it's about representing everyone because YOU hold YOURSELVES accountable to do so.
In these difficult economic times, has NPR considered tapping into the collective expertise of the thousands of reporters and editors who were downsized in recent years as newspapers cut staffs or closed their doors?
I'm sure the out-of-work journalists would prefer to be paid; but if the NPR budget is tight, the reporters and editors might be interested in volunteering for NPR outlets.
An example might be a popular newspaper columnist, now out of work, who could continue his or her work on the local public radio station.
I am curious to see if Mr. Knell or Diane will read these diverse messages . . . I was hopeful when he replaced the previous CEO who, frankly, disgraced NPR.
I distrust this saying, because the truth can hurt, but so can untruths---so something's having hurt is no sure test of its being truthful.
For example, a falsehood can hurt if it's conveyed in such a way as to indicate that the conveyor wants you to hurt---the anger or hatred in the conveyance can itself be hurtful. It were better were this not so, because it makes it gives the malicious what they want, but it is so.
On a more pleasant but apposite note, a potentially hurtful truth need not: if you've palpably good will toward its recipient, they might actually absorb the truth as useful information, rather than thinking of it as an attack against which practicality or honour demands defence.
Stop taking tax dollars and say whatever you like. Its that easy. I don't want Fox News, NBC, ABC, any of them taking government dollars. They used to play classic music most of the day with some slightly lefty news in the morning and afternoon. No big problem. Then around 1990 they fired the staff, brought in new management from Washington, and went all talk all day and most of the night. You may not think its skewed but it is. Juan Williams will tell you how much. I think he wrote a book about it. What's the point in denying it? I'll give one quick example: A week or two ago Diane did a feature on Kate Chopin's book The Awakening. Introducing the show she said "In this time of the war on women we are going to talk about the Kate Chopin novel The Awakening". If you can't see the politically charged bias embedded in that statement then you need a good de-programmer. Its not right and I think most people who can unbias their head for a moment or two know that. If you can't do that then simply do a thought experiment and imagine the tables turned. If you take government dollars there should be a special obligation.
shakazulu wrote:
"I don't want Fox News, NBC, ABC, any of them taking government dollars. "
And they don't ... only NPR.
Very thoughtful post, shakazulu, thanks.
Gerald Fnord wrote:
"For example, a falsehood can hurt if it's conveyed in such a way as to indicate that the conveyor wants you to hurt---the anger or hatred in the conveyance can itself be hurtful. It were better were this not so, because it makes it gives the malicious what they want, but it is so."
You mean something like this? ...
"Well, then in FOX's eyes you just aren't a Real American: a twenty-year-old Keyboard Kommando advocating our invasion of Everywhere and the torture of anyone who 'looks at us funny' from the damp safety of his mother's basement is a better citizen as far as FOX were concerned, a more productive person, and probably looks better too (despite all those Doritos)".
To repeat Mr. Ellison's questions to Mr. Duntov since he has not answered:
"Here's a simple question for Arkus. If NPR is liberally biased in your view, please name the news media organizations you consider to be fair and straight down the middle."
Since conservatives are now well to the right of where they once were, in fact extreme, everyone else looks liberal.
What is really upsetting is what a chill business interests and conservatives have put on NPR reporting for fear of losing funding. Telling the truth becomes liberal bias. Maybe the model of corporate funding is wrong to begin with. NPR should be publicly funded.
Potter wrote:
"Maybe the model of corporate funding is wrong to begin with. NPR should be publicly funded."
Yes, and in fact, perhaps it would be better if the state ran ALL the media. Then we could be assured of having both sides fairly represented.
Potter, conservatives are not "well to the right of where they once were", but nice try. There are some on the extreme right, there are some on the extreme left, but by and large, we remain a center-right people. What has, in fact happened, is the emergence of conservative talk radio and Fox news on TV has shined a light on news sources that have been biased for generations.
Here are two studies from the Project for Excellence in Journalism. These are related to the 2008 election, but we will, I predict, see similar results this time.
http://www.journalism.org/node/8197
http://www.journalism.org/node/13307
ecgberht,
Thanks for proving/confirming my statements..........by being poorly informed and poorly educated.
Buuuuuuuuurrrrrrppppp!
Arkus,
That was by far your most meaningful post yet (i.e. the one you left entirely blank).
I'm flabbergasted by the conservative commentors' comments. They seem to think that anyone who disagrees with them is "biased" even though they regularly watch/listen to the most biased media around. Fox was CREATED to be biased & to advocate for rightwing causes & politicians. They & the Kochs funded the Tea Party Express as well as many of the teaparty get-togethers like the one Glenn Beck held. I guess if all you watch or listen to is biased propaganda, then actual facts & truth WOULD seem biased. What loons!
With government (taxpayer) funding or a combination of that with listener/subscriber funding we would have a much better shot at truthful reporting than with a chill over NPR to be afraid to report the truth lest they lose funding.
The "some on the extreme right" have a very large megaphone supported by business interests to get the Republican votes. A marriage made in heaven...or hell.
NPR and Diane Rehm consistently report on and discuss the news with a somewhat liberal bias. As an example, last Friday, June 1, Diane said: "corporate CEO's are making tons of money .... they ought to be answerable to more people than stockholders."
If CEO's were answerable to people other than stockholders regarding their salaries, we would be living under a much different system and I don't think it could be called free enterprise.
Nevertheless, I enjoy listening to NPR for thoughtful, in depth reporting and discussion of important issues. But I also listen to the conservative side.
LibVet wrote:
"Thanks for proving/confirming my statements..........by being poorly informed and poorly educated."
Still no substance, LibVet. Nothin' from you but "so's your old man".
soundpam wrote:
" I guess if all you watch or listen to is biased propaganda, then actual facts & truth WOULD seem biased".
I don't know, pam. Try posting some actual facts and truth and we'll see. Glenn Beck, blah, blah, blah. Koch brothers, blah, blah, blah. Tea Party, blah, blah, blah. You need a new tune, pam. And this time, try a little lyric (read: substance), not just melody, this time, 'k?
Jeffrey Hale:
Thanks for that post. I posted similar. That statement made my hair stand up. CEO's are answerable to stock holders because stock holders are the ones that have their capital at risk. If you have nothing at risk, you have nothing to say. Her statement just demonstrates that the liberal mouth often runs without the brain being engaged. And I like Diane, I do, but sometimes some of the statements she makes just astound me.
ecgberht wrote: "mellifluous, when you use terms like "Repugnicants", in my book you don't deserve any reply at all, but since my mother raised me right, I will give you one anyway." ecgberht, even though I may have reason to question your intellectual integrity, your grip on reality and your command of relevant facts, I wouldn't even think to disparage your upbringing or by extension, your mother, especially since we don't know each other. Shame on you.
I do indeed conflate public radio with natural resources. You see, I am continually frustrated in trying to divine any principle that "conservatives" apply consistently: apparently there is none. When I did a little cursory searching on the roots of Conservatism, I found that at its root, Conservatism isn't a philosophy or ethic -- it is merely a posture, a stance resisting progress. This seems to me to be an awfully slim reed upon which to base a justification for the eradication of individual liberties, mismanagement of public funds, habitual fraud and sanctimoniously lying as a way of life: yet "conservatives" continually howl that they are insufficiently respected and politicians compete to determine who is the most "conservative". It's like bragging about brain damage.
(cont.) Citizens United could have been decided differently 1) if the Supreme Court had stuck to the very narrow question that had been brought before it, rather than the extremely activist Chief Justice Roberts taking the extraordinary step of expanding the Court's consideration in order to enshrine the protection of corporations' supposed free speech rights, and 2) Had the Court been honest, it would have drawn distinctions between natural-born persons like me and presumably you, and corporations, which are legal entities created and maintained by charter and therefore incapable of attaining citizenship or voting. Here's an article that expanded my understanding of how the decision developed, but you'll likely dismiss the source as too "liberal" for you to consider:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/05/21/120521fa_fact_toobin
""and that legislators have the right to sell things that don't belong to them in return for legal bribes."
And I said that where?" -- Again, I was making a point that it strikes me as awfully peculiar what you and your ideological brethren choose to object to, and the greater instances of injustice and destruction that you apparently ignore. I was drawing attention to the fact that you had not responded to that part of my assertion.
It is true that although I attempt to be thoughtful in this forum, my thoughts are sometimes scattershot and my command of facts is not always all I would hope for. My writing style doesn't match those of my heroes. But I at least try to make cogent comments, posit useful questions, engage with others honestly and openly in the spirit of inquiry and to keep my derision and rancor to a bare minimum. If you're not angry, you probably haven't been paying attention. I'll take my blood pressure over your knee-jerk dismissiveness, sense of entitlement and deliberate narrow-mindedness any day.