Friday News Roundup - International
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-03-23/friday-news-roundup-international
The standoff between French police and the shooting suspect in Toulouse ends in a hail of gunfire; the U.N. Security Council calls for a ceasefire in Syria; and charges are expected to be filed on Friday against the American soldier accused of killing 16 Afghan civilians. Join Diane and a panel of journalists for analysis of the week's top international news stories.
Guests
Tom Gjelten
NPR national security correspondent and author of "Bacardi and the Long Fight for Cuba: The Biography of a Cause."
Courtney Kube
national security producer for NBC News.
Ahmed Rashid
Pakistani journalist; contributor to Financial Times; and author of the new book "Pakistan on the Brink: The Future of America, Pakistan, and Afghanistan"; his other books include "Taliban," "Descent into Chaos" and "Jihad."


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Kathleen:
You are always putting blame on the Israelis and American for thousands of death but you fail to mention all the killing within Moslem countries like Syria and that most terrorist act come from individuals of the Moslem faith iwith some connection to the Middle East or Pakistan.
While it is so important to closely examine the multiple deployments, stress, etc of the American soldier who allegedly massacred the 9 children and 8 adults in Afghanistan and many of us have been politely hammering on many MSM outlets for years begging them to focus on just these issues. I have noticed all week that MSM outlets have been setting the stage for an insanity plea for the American soldier. Joe Scarborough, Mika, Ed Shultz, etc will open this particular discussion with while this is "not an excuse" for this massacre they spend the next five minutes focused on repeat deployments etc. Never are they focused on the massacred children and adults in Afghanistan, their families etc. A real dehumanization process there.
What is also very sad is that the Diane Rehm show and other MSM outlets totally ignroed the Winter Soldier hearings some years back where soldiers who had served in Afghanistan and Iraq testified about crimes they had been involved with in those countries and horrific crimes they had witnessed. Our MSM seems to wait until there is a catastrophe to report about the very complicated problems with multiple deployments, stress, etc for our soldiers. And when will these outlets start having these soldiers on their programs instead of hearing from pundits etc who have not served in the military
I bring attention to both
Meangreen can you explain why our MSM can report numbers of killed in Syria and are unwilling to count report about the accumulative dead and injured in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 10 years? Why? Can you explain?
And why our MSM covers the horrific kililngs of the Jewish children in France and seldom if ever do we hear the same outlets focused on Palestinian children killed by Israeli forces etc? Why? Please explain?
This past Monday March 19th MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow aired a one hour program focused on Mexico choosing to be relieved of all weapons grade nuclear material. A great show in many ways. But within five minutes (4:07 in the first segment) of the program Rachel and her team put up a map of all countries known to have nuclear weapons. The US, UK, Russia, China, France (all signatories of the Non Proli…(tharr be more)feration Treaty) As well as Israel, Pakistan, India and North Koria (all non signatories of the NPT) What Rachel and her team chose to do next is inexcusable, irresponsible and very dangerous. They put Iran up on that map which says in the caption above the map “Countries with Nuclear Weapons” Rachel states “Let’s also add an outline around Iran because even though Iran says they neither have them or want them. There are international concerns that Iran is not only working on having nuclear weapons. But they may be close to that.” This is not only false but terribly irresponsible on Rachel Maddows part. While the international community does have concerns about what may be but has not been proven to be a plan for a nuclear weapons plan Iran is no where near having nuclear weapons. Rachel Maddow should be hammered (please contact her program) for being so irresponsible and repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran and posting them on her map of “Countries with nuclear weapons” This is one more example of how our MSM has been repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran starting very soon after the invasion of Iraq. First Segment March 19th ” Mexico relieved of all weapons useable nuclear material” At 4:07) Rachel Maddow Showwww.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/Peer into the depths
Hope folks go watch the Maddow show on March 19th especially that first segment
Hey meangreen
I don't think Timothy McVeigh was Muslim, the Columbine,CO kids and all the copy cat school shooters were NOT Muslim, and the Denmark bomber/shooter (who dressed up as cop) I believe was a right-wing religious nut, NOT Muslim. My point is that TERRORISM is used by ALL types of people as well as Governments.
Do your guest think it would be appropriate and fact based for MSNBC's Rachel Maddow or anyone else with that kind of power to post Iran up on a world map that says "Nations with nuclear weapons"? We know that the US, UK, France, Russia, China (all signatories of the NPT), Israel, Pakistan, India, North Korea (non signatories of the NPT) all have nuclear weapons but there is no verifiable proof that Iran even has a nuclear weapons plan. Yet MSNBC'S Rachel Maddow put Iran up on a map of nations that absolutely have nuclear weapons. I think this was terribly irresponsible, inaccurate and a very dangerous choice that Maddow and her team made
During a conversation on Chris Matthews Hardball last evening about oil prices and production Congressman Markey closing statement was blaming Iran for rising prices. He said "Iran as they rattle the markets" Essentially blaming Israel's endless saber rattling and threat to attack on Iran and oil speculation taking place as a result on Iran. Iran is not rattling the oil markets. That would be Israel persistently threatening Iran and attempting to drag the US into an unnecessary military confrontation
SEEING BEYOND THE AFGHANISTAN BUBBLE TO CHINA
Leaving Afghanistan to the Chinese is a questionable idea at best. Make no mistake, though no one mentions China, Chinese hegemony would be the inevitable result of American withdrawal.
It is a straight line from China's Xinjiang Province through Afghanistan to Iran. That fact in and of itself should raise more than a few hairs on all our heads.
Then there is the issue of water supply and the political leverage of water. China already controls the headwaters of the great rivers in Tibet that feed Pakistan, India, Southeast Asia, China, and of course Tibet itself. The rivers of Afghanistan, which represent the primary rivers of central asia, exist independently of the Tibetan region, and are not yet in China's control.
A major news story in just the past week or two is that China has made a deal with Afghanistan to operate an oil operation in Afghanistan. How is it that after all our efforts to free and rebuild Afghanistan, that it is China that will profit by such an oil contract with Afghanistan?
Yet our media is drunk with self-recriminations because our war effort is not immaculate. As a nation, we are overdue to sober up. Today's war costs in Asia are nothing, compared to what they will be, when China solidifies it's further expansion.
The children of our country are OUR CHILDREN! No matter who they are, what they do, where they go, no matter what mistakes they make.... we are the adults and we are responsible!
The Supreme Court needs to keep that in mind as well!
Last week our women were called sluts and prostitutes...
Today our children are defined worth killing on sight!
Last week, one of us went crazy and shot over a dozen women and children in a country and place where he was supposed to be protecting the people!
We have politicians who hate the President of this country and insult him every chance they get! And I will stop here... the list could go on and on!
But I ask you: "HOW WELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE DOING?"
Not to have examined the clothing of the gunman, not to have examined the gun and taken all other measures that are normally done in a crime scene... that is a serious cover up violations!
We have cameras everywhere... what a shame we did not have any around there! Or maybe we did.... where is the investigation? Who is seeking justice for this young man?
Where are the responsible adults? How well are we doing? No matter what party, no matter how much one may want to defend the NRA, the laws of Florida or any other state... no matter who you are... you should feel a bit responsible for the state our country is in!
When will the madness end?
"hybeerian wrote:
Hey meangreen
I don't think Timothy McVeigh was Muslim, the Columbine,CO kids and all the copy cat school shooters were NOT Muslim, and the Denmark bomber/shooter (who dressed up as cop) I believe was a right-wing religious nut, NOT Muslim. My point is that TERRORISM is used by ALL types of people as well as Governments"
That was pre-9/11. Never heard that Timothy McVeigh was a right-wing religious nut. I heard he was agnostic. But then the left is alway quick to say " a right wing religious nut"
Most Terrorism over the last decade have orginated from Muslim cells.
"kathleen wrote:
During a conversation on Chris Matthews Hardball last evening about oil prices and production Congressman Markey closing statement was blaming Iran for rising prices. He said "Iran as they rattle the markets" Essentially blaming Israel's endless saber rattling and threat to attack on Iran and oil speculation taking place as a result on Iran. Iran is not rattling the oil markets. That would be Israel persistently threatening Iran and attempting to drag the US into an unnecessary military confrontation"
Kathleen:
You know very little about Iranian and Israeli International Relations. They had diplomatic ties before Komeni and his first century mullahs took office. It is the present Iranian leader that vowed to destroy Israel. Furthermore, it is Iran that has recently started the tensions in the Sea of Hormutz.
"kathleen wrote:
I bring attention to both
Meangreen can you explain why our MSM can report numbers of killed in Syria and are unwilling to count report about the accumulative dead and injured in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 10 years? Why? Can you explain?
And why our MSM covers the horrific kililngs of the Jewish children in France and seldom if ever do we hear the same outlets focused on Palestinian children killed by Israeli forces etc? Why? Please explain?"
Kathleen why not mention that Sunni and Shite have been killing each other for centuries. We hear everyday about some bombing killing innocent women and children by one sect or the other in Iraq.
Like I said to you before, why not look at all the killing within these Arab countries among their own people instead of always blaming Israel and the US.
Meang the Iranian President has never said that he wants to destroy Israel. That is a endlessly repeated mistranslation that Netanyahu, Reuel Marc Gerecht, Terri Gross, John Bolton, etc etc have used to fuel tension between Iran, Israel and the US.
Professor Juan Cole addresses the mistranslation at his website Informed Comment:
"Since Mr. Hitchens wants to splash my private mail all over the internet against my will, as though he were himself an agent of the Bush Administration’s electronic spying on the private conversations of Americans, I’m glad to share the message that encapsulates the results of our deliberations at Gulf2000.
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:34:18 -0400 From: “Cole, Juan”
The speech in Persian is here:
Sorry that I misremembered the exact phrase Ahmadinejad had used. He made an analogy to Khomeini’s determination and success in getting rid of the Shah’s government, which Khomeini had said “must go” (az bain bayad berad). Then Ahmadinejad defined Zionism not as an Arabi-Israeli national struggle but as a Western plot to divide the world of Islam with Israel as the pivot of this plan.
The phrase he then used as I read it is “The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] from the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).”
Ahmadinejad was not making a threat, he was quoting a saying of Khomeini and urging that pro-Palestinian activists in Iran not give up hope– that the occupation of Jerusalem was no more a continued inevitability than had been the hegemony of the Shah’s government.
cont:Whatever this quotation from a decades-old speech of Khomeini may have meant, Ahmadinejad did not say that “Israel must be wiped off the map” with the implication that phrase has of Nazi-style extermination of a people. He said that the occupation regime over Jerusalem must be erased from the page of time.
Again, Ariel Sharon erased the occupation regime over Gaza from the page of time.
I should again underline that I personally despise everything Ahmadinejad stands for, not to mention the odious Khomeini, who had personal friends of mine killed so thoroughly that we have never recovered their bodies. Nor do I agree that the Israelis have no legitimate claim on any part of Jerusalem. And, I am not exactly a pacifist but have a strong preference for peaceful social activism over violence, so needless to say I condemn the sort of terror attacks against innocent civilians (including Arab Israelis) that we saw last week. I have not seen any credible evidence, however, that such attacks are the doing of Ahmadinejad, and in my view they are mainly the result of the expropriation and displacement of the long-suffering Palestinian people.
It is not realistic for Americans to call for Iran to talk directly to the Israeli government (though in the 1980s the Khomeinists did a lot of business with Israel) when the US government won’t talk directly to the Iranians about most bilateral issues. In fact, an American willingness to engage in direct talks might well pave the way to an eventual settlement of these outstanding issues.
cheers
Juan Cole