Efforts to Deal With Bullying

Efforts to Deal With Bullying

Thirteen million kids in the US will be bullied this year. This according to the new documentary “Bully.” It’s one of two films drawing attention to the issue. The other film, “Speak Up!” was screened yesterday before a DC...

Thirteen million kids in the US will be bullied this year. This according to the new documentary “Bully.” It’s one of two films drawing attention to the issue. The other film, “Speak Up!” was screened yesterday before a DC middle school with Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius on hand. Psychologists say bullying can lead to a cycle of violence and suicide. Some in the medical field say it has become a public health issue. The director of “Bully” and one of the teenagers featured in the film join the panel of experts to discuss new efforts to deal with bullying.

Guests

Kelby Johnson

a gay teenager from Oklahoma whose story is featured in the documentary "Bully."

Lee Hirsch

Sundance- and Emmy-award winning filmmaker, directed the documentary "Bully."

Dr. Joseph Wright

pediatrician, senior vice president, Child Health Advocacy Institute at Children's National Medical Center.

Duane Thomas

practicing therapist in Baltimore, Maryland, assistant professor, Applied Psychology and Human Development Division of the Graduate School of Education at the University of Pennsylvania, and a consultant to the documentary "Speak Up!"

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It took my ten year old son coming to me telling me he was tired of being bullied for being overweight and that he was really unhappy as a result of it, for me to wake up and realize the parental responsibility missing from the equation.

It would be so easy to place blame on any number of reasonable excuses available today, but our family has learned through our journey to healthier living that placing blame really started with us. We needed to slow down. Listen. Empathize. Relate. Fortunately we had enough trust between us that he felt comfortable coming to me and saying he was done with it.

Now my son is out of the obese category and has become a role model for others. We were very lucky.

I guess what I am trying to say is that despite the times, the technology, the media and the resources changing; youth and families are first. In the absence of getting families back involved and in-tune with their kids.... I don't know. I don't think it is just policy, or education, or specific programs that will work. I think it has to be a combined effort by all and I agree with the filmmaker today in his final thoughts.....its starting with youth.

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March 15, 2012 - 2:13 pm

Great show. I keep asking why do kids bully ? Is it a pecking order that nature seeks? Could it have anything to do with the role models we see on TV and in politics? I shudder whenever (no matter what side) says such negative MEAN spirited things about another candidate. We certainly aren't setting a very good example ... just a thought .

March 15, 2012 - 3:00 pm

My father worked as a speech and language pathologist in the public school system for more than four decades. I find myself relying on his experience in this matter. He once told me that he considered bullying behavior to be a primitive behavior which will probably follow humanity through its history, but despite its ubiquitous nature, can never be tolerated.

One issue is in detecting and identifying the behavior. So much of this behavior goes on out of sight of adult authority figures. Often when it does happen in the open, as your guests pointed out, it is misidentified as conflict, or its seriousness is not recognized.

There are many things that must be done to combat this behavior, but I believe there are several things which are within our reach now. 1) Children must know from the day they enter school as a young child, that this behavior will not be tolerated and will be responded to with swift and serious consequences. 2) Schools need to place much closer monitoring on students. A lot of this behavior takes place in locker rooms and gymnasiums. These locations should be under constant surveillance. 3) Students who bully and are of sufficient age to be charged with felonies as an adult, must be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Their parents should have their parental rights revoked and forced to pay restitution to the bullied child and his/her family.

March 15, 2012 - 3:03 pm

I would have liked to call, but can't seem to find the phone #. I am 70 yrs old and was bullied as an elementry/ jr high student. I lived in the country and rode a schoolbus. I had long hair in braids and wore glasses. I was frequently beat up by the boys on the schoolbus going home. Didn't usually happen on the way to school, but did on the way home. a couple of times my glasses were broken. It was awful!! The bus driver did what he could to stop it, but it wasn't enough.This in Dutchess county in New York State.

I helped to raise a grandson who was also bullied. times were a little different and I was able to put him in private school, not just because of the bullying, but for learning disabilities as well. There he was able to flourish and fparticipate in activities and have positive experiences he never would have had in public school. This in Maine.

My heart goes out to the young people who are being bullied and I applaud their strength and courage. Bullying is abuse and no one should be abused.

March 15, 2012 - 3:05 pm

I would like to additionally note, that the current political climate in our nation is actually encouraging bullying. A faction of politicians actually attempted to legalize bullying in one recent case (by amending a law to allow bullying where it was based upon "moral convictions"). The intent of this amendment was to actually protect bullying behavior against individuals such as the young person on the show today under the guise of religious freedom! We are electing bullies to office, who later fight to allow bullying to continue!

As other commenters have mentioned, the legal tools often exist, but are not utilized. It is not in the interest of a school administrator to have large amounts of students arrested at their school, during their tenure. Administrators simply want the problem to go away. For them, the easiest way is to let your child be bullied until he or she graduates. Students need to have advocates. I applaud the doctor and the film maker for taking on this issue, but they are merely the beginning. Our children are the most neglected part of our society and we need to do better, or our future will continue to suffer.

March 15, 2012 - 3:11 pm

It's really sad when a teacher stands up to bullying in the classroom, only to be overruled by a principal who caves in to a bully's parents' demands about how their child must be accommodated rather than held accountable. Parents of the victims of bullying never know what has happened to their children, but the principal and district administrators can say there's no bullying problem in that school!

Gilbert Public Schools (Arizona) is firing an acclaimed National Board Certified Teacher after she reported bullying, racial discrimination and retaliation. She has become a poster child for what happens to teachers who report bullying in the classroom. The teacher is pretty, but the poster is ugly. www.WesternConnections.com

The teacher reported bullying in her third grade classroom at Meridian Elementary School in February 2011, where she taught for six years. The teacher worked diligently to resolve the problems she reported internally and informally. The situation was dire: at least one student was afraid to come to school for fear of the bully. No one at the district level helped the students who were victims of bullying. The district instead commissioned investigations that stretched out past the end of the school year. An investigating attorney provoked the bully’s parents into filing a complaint against the teacher for her “unprofessionalism” with regard to her reporting of their child’s bullying.

The district recently brought 20 charges against the teacher, the first of which concerns her initial report of bullying. The district appears confident they can nail her for such zingers as "donated five copies of her book to the library" (Charge #8), "sent the Technology Services Help Desk an email" (Charge #11), and "referred to efforts to monitor her as 'double secret probation.'" (Charge # 15).

March 15, 2012 - 5:09 pm

It's really sad when a teacher stands up to bullying in the classroom, only to be overruled by a principal who caves in to a bully's parents' demands about how their child must be accommodated rather than held accountable. Parents of the victims of bullying never know what has happened to their children, but the principal and district administrators can say there's no bullying problem in that school!

Gilbert Public Schools (Arizona) is firing an acclaimed National Board Certified Teacher after she reported bullying, racial discrimination and retaliation. She has become a poster child for what happens to teachers who report bullying in the classroom. The teacher is pretty, but the poster is ugly. www.WesternConnections.com

The teacher reported bullying in her third grade classroom at Meridian Elementary School in February 2011, where she taught for six years. The teacher worked diligently to resolve the problems she reported internally and informally. The situation was dire: at least one student was afraid to come to school for fear of the bully. No one at the district level helped the students who were victims of bullying. The district instead commissioned investigations that stretched out past the end of the school year. An investigating attorney provoked the bully’s parents into filing a complaint against the teacher for her “unprofessionalism” with regard to her reporting of their child’s bullying.

The district recently brought 20 charges against the teacher, the first of which concerns her initial report of bullying. The district appears confident they can nail her for such zingers as "donated five copies of her book to the library" (Charge #8), "sent the Technology Services Help Desk an email" (Charge #11), and "referred to efforts to monitor her as 'double secret probation.'" (Charge # 15).

March 15, 2012 - 5:07 pm

I think this picture is too limited. I believe that the child who bullied our daughter feels bullied herself by her friends and her parents. This makes even more sense to me given her mother's response to us: 'All 5th grade girls do this.' I can imagine that this child heard this many times in response to her trying to talk to her parents about her own situation. I am in no way trying to excuse her behaviour by this.

March 15, 2012 - 6:03 pm

I am a 61 year old woman who was bullied from the 5th grade until graduation. Why? I moved to a town where I was the new girl. My parents were older than most of the kid's parents, we didn't have a lot of money, so I didn't have a lot of clothes, had curly hair, was overweight, and was younger than the kids in my class. I became their victim from the day I walked in to the class. They called me nicknames and bullied me whenever they saw me, in the class, outside of the class, or even on the phone. They even came to my house to beat me up. As you can understand, I hated going to school. It became torture for me.

To this day, I still don't know why. I keep asking, what did I do. But, I can tell you that the damage these kids did to me followed me through my life. I lost my self-esteem, had two marriages that failed, and always blamed myself for any thing that went wrong with my life. Finally, I am in therapy and have begun to like myself and I married a wonderful man, who accepts me for whom I am.

But, listening to the program today, brought back a lot of bad memories. Lately, I have been trying to find, unsuccessfully, a support group for adults who have gone through bullying. Most of the groups seem to focus on children today, so that they will NEVER experience the trauma that bullying can do to you.

If I could say anything to a child who is being bullied, I would say talk to someone and tell them what is going on. My parents knew what was going on, but I would never tell them who the bullies were (the girls were worse than the boys) I didn't want to be a snitch, I thought I would endure their wrath if they found out.

To those who bully, think about the consequences of your actions. What you do causes a lot of damage, not just the present, but continues on into the future.

Diane, thank you again, for having a program that focuses on a subject that we would never have talked about in 1960. You are to be commended.

March 15, 2012 - 7:30 pm

Most people take the course of least resistance and refuse to do anything about bullying. This will continue until schools, teachers, bullies, and the bullies' parents perceive that stopping the bullying is easier than the consequences of allowing the bullying to continue. When the bullies and their advocates (parents, teachers, administrators, and school systems) are sued successfully and often enough, and when the students being bullied escalate with extreme violence sufficiently often, the bullying will be stopped. Until then, nothing will happen. Why do we have to wait for more Columbines and more bullied students knifing and shooting their attackers? Because, that's the way we do things in the United States of America. It's all cost-benefit analysis. It's not a moral issue for us, it's a matter of dollars and cents. Bullying will only be stopped when it becomse too expensive to let it continue.

March 16, 2012 - 6:07 am

I have long believed that talk radio provides the blueprint for bullying..a sort of free DIY. I would like to see some attention paid to our communication industry and their responsibility around the issue of bullying. I think the attempt to legislate the horrible behavior of bullying children and their parents seems a hopeless task when all anyone needs to do is turn on their radio and get all the encouragement they need to continue their harmful behavior. Let's not be sidetracked around the issue, let's go to the source of the problem-the talk radio shows who are not living up to their mandate to provide services for all the people but are serving to support the "us and them" approach to living. Then, in keeping with a much loved approach to a serious issue, it 'trickles down' to our children.

March 16, 2012 - 8:54 am

It is of interest to read your father's understanding of bullying behavior..one only has to keep chickens to see the 'pecking order' process in action. As I understand it, their behavior is a genetic process to guarantee the future of their order....anything that looks amiss in the gene pool is to be eliminated or at least kept from breeding. All animals practice this process in one form or another. No weak genes in the furtherance of the species.
We like to think of ourselves as being as far away from animal behavior as we could be. We believe we function from our more developed brain so we are a 'superior' species. I would like to offer our seemingly uncontrollable need to bully, whether on talk radio or the hallways of our school systems, merely our animal self, our lizard brain still at work.
Some serious consequences must take place before we can fully snap ourselves out of our animal preferences. I can't even imagine what they might be. While I think your final solution might work I would hope something less hurtful might also work. If we take the 'Don't Litter" campaign as a model..maybe a full scale media blast about bullying as an indication of primitive, animal behavior might finally get the idea across that we don't want, nor will tolerate lower species behavior as acceptable behavior in our culture anymore. Of coarse what that would do to talk radio I can't imagine..

March 16, 2012 - 10:36 am

I was bullied in middle and high school, for taking advanced classes and being small. I started going to the gym over the summer between my freshmen and sophmore years in highschool and no one bullied me again, and I have a lifelong hobby/addiction to fitness and weightlifting. Kids need to get a tougher skin and learn to let it roll off your back, or do something about it, not violence, but make yourself less of a target.

March 16, 2012 - 12:37 pm

mnemecek:

That's nice that you were able to work out and make yourself into a more intimidating person. That isn't possible for everyone. My brother, who has been wheelchair bound since a 2nd grade bicycle accident was bullied the whole way through school. More than once, he was thrown out of his chair, to the ground, and his chair was taken away and vandalized. He was even urinated on in the locker room after swimming class. The teachers, administration, and the parents of the bullies took your attitude and nothing was done.

Why is it that you think violence is not appropriate? When foreign powers attack our country, we retaliate with violence. If we were to simply "got a tougher skin and learn to let it roll off" our backs, how long do you think we would last as a nation?

Sadly, I believe that one of the few tools available to those who are bullied is to violently retaliate with whatever weapon is at hand, whether it be a chair, pencil in the eye, a knife, or a gun.

Please note that I am not advocating violence. I am simply pointing out that, in our country, violence is often the only remedy. This is a horrid state of affairs, but it is brought on by people like you who blame the victims and refuse to take action against the perpetrators. Those who are victimized by bullies should not have to do anything to protect themselves. It is the responsibility of the adults and the other students to stand up to the bullies.

March 17, 2012 - 7:46 pm

If that is typical of her, the administrator in the clip beginning around 21:55 should find a new line of employment. She hurt the situation more than helped things. Why should he believe in the apology when she is the one initiating it, not the other kid? She was using shame to get the kid to do it her way, (I expected more from you or whatever she said). That has ramifications of it's own, and when there is bullying, the bullied side has been getting shamed enough which she's adding to. Even if the bully meant the apology, it could naturally take time for the other kid to believe it after the bully's actions. Too many don't want real solutions, only quick ones.

I was on both side of bullying when I grew up, (more getting bullied than bullying). IMO they are two sides of the same coin. Most of it was about humiliation. I could relate about what was said about going through the gauntlet by the one guest. My situation wasn't nearly as bad as what was mentioned during the show, but one day when I was walking on my paper route past the house where a bully lived, I heard a bullet go past my head.

Any bullying needs to be dealt with and resolved if possible. In any case, due to the power imbalance mentioned by one of the guests, the person being bullied needs to be able to take care of himself and defend himself-physically if necessary. It is not a good thing. It's valuable young human beings with an innate inner dignity just for being we're talking about here!

March 19, 2012 - 7:19 pm

Could someone please identify the song and artist of the beautiful piano interlude at about 32:42 in the Podcast?

March 20, 2012 - 8:55 pm

My first grade teacher, in Pickens, SC, was the class bully. Would have been about 1975 or 6, I suppose. She relentlessly and systmatically humiliated one of my classmates, a thin black girl, for the crime of sucking her thumb. She also waged a gleefully cruel campaign against a boy in our class who was frail and often sick. She'd play infantile tricks on him, once offering him an artfully re-closed empty chocolate milk container, and berate him in front of the class. About a month before Valentine's day, the teacher started to talk up the all-day Valentine's day party she was planning. About a week before the party, she announced to the whole class that our sickly classmate would not be allowed to participate, because he had not been finishing his lunches. The morning of the day after that announcement, a knock came on the classroom door. The teacher opened the door. I remember the look of recognition between this boy and the pretty young lady in the hall. Our teacher stepped out into the hall, shutting the door behind her. We heard a smack and a thud. That parent had punched the teacher squarely in the face, laying her out on the floor. You know, it's pathetic that this was required -- but that kid did take part in that god-forsaken Valentine's day party.

Bullied circa 1981-7, I am as many of you, a veteran of something terribly un-American. I learned to forget, not being terribly forgiving, and to this day I have great difficulty remembering names -- I think because of this. I see a lot of former classmates on Facebook these days. Many ask to "friend" me. And you know -- I do. And sometimes I do it just for them.

Sincerely,

Charlie DeArmond, RN / ADN

April 17, 2012 - 7:55 pm

i've JUST come across this inspiring viral youtube video of Jonah Mowry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdkNn3Ei-Lg. Check this video out if you haven't already, and share with others please. It's so sad to think that 13 year-olds have to consider suicide. Also, please visit Bullyfight.com to hear out UFC fighters talk about bullying and ways to overcome bullying problems.

I post this with the sincere hope and dream that all bullying problems are eliminated in the near future

August 1, 2012 - 8:14 pm

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