Objections to Reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-02-13/objections-reauthorizing-violence-against-women-act
The widely praised Violence Against Women Act faces a tough reauthorization battle. Though introduced in a bipartisan way, it passed the Senate Judiciary Committee on a party-line vote with all the Democrats voting to move it to the full Senate and all the Republicans voting against. Diane will speak to the chair of the committee and cosponsor of the bill, Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont. Diane and a panel of experts will examine VAWA and why some object to provisions of the act which include gay, transgendered and undocumented immigrants.
Guests
Senator Patrick Leahy
Democratic Senator from Vermont
Janice Shaw Crouse
Senior Fellow at the Beverly LaHaye Institute, the think tank for Concerned Women for America.
Terry O'Neill
president of the National Organization for Women
Amy Myers
professor and director of the Domestic Violence Clinic at the Washington College of Law at American University.
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Why do issues important mostly to women turn into issues about men? This is ridiculous! How many men are MURDERED by their girl friends/wives? Damn few!! Give me a break. Also, why have a spokes person from "Concerned Women for America" on the show. They are clearly a right wing mouth piece and are absolutely out to undermine any and all women's issues. They represent double speak at its finest. Why give them a voice as if they have any legitimacy? All they do is distort and misrepresent. Maybe if DV were made a men's issue it wouldn't be controversial at all and would get full support and legitimacy.
http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victim...
http://www.shrink4men.com/2011/12/08/now-lawyer-and-vawa-defender-lisaly...
Gigawatt Corruption and Hypocrisy with video of VAWA attorney assaulting previously Falsely Accused Daddy Justice while lobbying for more VAWA $$$$$$$$$$ (Billions) outside the Senate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZTOE5SQt4c&feature=share
http://www.mediaradar.org/research.php
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See also: http://www.manwomanmyth.com/video/feminism/origins-of-feminism/
http://www.manwomanmyth.com/video/domestic-violence/
http://www.manwomanmyth.com/video/domestic-violence/the-duluth-model/ all of which is even worse if you dig further
and go through these: At the 2008 http://www.cafcusa.org/ From Ideology to Inclusion conference
Nicola Graham-Kevan, BSc, Ph.D. conpletely
trashed Duluth. No competent research it works. ever. That presentation is avail as DVD from the conference.
Other excellent presentations there were Donald Dutton and Erin Pizzey. Dutton’s book is damning to this topic also.
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http://hereticalsex.blogspot.com/ Ideological movements are generally movements of the gullible led by the manipulative, and feminism is no exception. The feminist movement can be regarded as a crypto-fascist cult in which women are encouraged to gather in secret for the purpose of hating men.
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Book: My-Lie-Story-False-Memory http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/2010/09/
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http://www.saveservices.org/vawa-reauthorization/analysis/
Angela Moore Parmley, PhD of the U.S. Department of Justice has acknowledged that “We have no evidence to date that VAWA has led to a decrease in the overall levels of violence against women.”[ii]
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/roberts/090701
Among others Erin Pizzey has been calling BS on the Radical Feminists who took over the women's shelter movement in england for 35 yrs.
http://angryharry.com/notefeminismforstudents.htm
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http://www.mediaradar.org/docs/RADARsignatureReport-ErringOnTheSideOfHid...
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http://www.ted.com/talks/philip_zimbardo_on_the_psychology_of_evil.html
mindlessly taking the first small step
dehumanization of others
dehumanization of self / anonymity/
diffusion of personal responsibility
blind obedience to authority
uncritical conformity to group norms
passive acceptance of evil through inaction or indifference in new or different situations
no supervision
Power without supervision is a recipe for abuse everywhere
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Also, this woman from Concerned Women for America obviously tries to coverup her malicious intents by speaking with a soft nonthreatening tone of voice which is obviously done on purpose. She is obviously trying to convince the listeners that she is nice, calm and caring when in fact she is a wolf in sheep's clothing, no doubt. I've noticed that about these various right wing radical spokes people (particularly the women, who apparently want to be seen as their idea of the anti-feminist). It's very devious, but I know what their agenda really is, and it is not nice or charitable.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/biden-accused-of-plagiarism-in-law-sc...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwu7ES-gFbs
Terry O'Neill repeatedly insists that this law should focus on one gender because of statistics which show that women are the majority of victims. We do not deploy this majoritarian view when dealing with workplace safety, where more than 90% of workplace fatalities (from all causes) occur to one gender, but we don't have the Men's Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Women can and should expect every bit as much protection in the workplace as men receive, even though men are overwhelmingly in more danger.
Likewise, a large number of domestic violence programs do not serve men, or at least do not provide equal levels of wraparound services to male victims of domestic violence and their children as are provided to women. Although women who have sons over age 14 are also often denied shelter.
Stanley Green
http://www.manwomanmyth.com/video/domestic-violence/
At least watch Erin Pizzey, who started the first women shelter -ever in england and was throw out by radical feminist
and had death threat for her saying that there were lots of women showing up who were as violent or more violent than the men they were with. 54 of the first 100. She eventually left england for a time.
See her "this way to the revolution piece"
part of this:
http://www.manwomanmyth.com/video/feminism/origins-of-feminism/
Actually, I think that the number of men murdered by their spouses is about 25%. Should we ignore those men and only focus on the needs of the other 75%? I don't think so. We need to find a way to address all victims not just a subset.
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The most under reported is the violence against men by there female partners. I was married to a woman who both phsycally and mentally abused me. I am a large man and she a tiny woman and the police and courts never believed me. Only when I told my story to other men do you find out just how common it is. If the aim is stopping domestic violence then it should ABSOLOUTELY coer both sexes. Put the shoe on the other foot if you had this bill only for male victums you would have a lot of upset women.
The gentlemen doth protest too much, methinks. Come on, the vast majority of perpetrators of DV are of the male persuasion, period. I don't hate men, I love my son and generally have more in common with men than women, but please, give it a rest. A lot of men think that if they vacumn the carpet once a year that they do house work, if they make a piece of toast they're a master chef, etc. Get over yourself already and get real about the issue.
It is incredible for me to be listening to this. I have been a victim of domestic violence during the entire 13 years of my marriage. My ex husband tried to kill me several times and I got away with my life and my three children miraculously and because there was a system in place. But this system in the State of Florida, did not automatically assume that I was the victim because I was a woman, and in fact, I had to go through several psychiatric testing as well as interrogations of neighbors, teachers and friends and two years of control to see if I took good care of my children. My ex has NEVER paid child support or any kind of alimony. I have since worked in other countries and have seen how much money the US gives to other governments in support of women's rights; domestic violence, education and other things. Why?? because it is apparent everywhere that women are less socially protected then the other gender. This does not mean that men are not sometimes abused as well, but I am talking about life and death situations as well as all the emotional and psychological trauma brought upon the woman and her children. Why are so many issues now (contraceptives, domestic violence etc.)trying to destroy the few advances made to protect our gender from obvious inequalities being brought into question at this point in time?
There will obviously always be people who try to abuse the system and get away with using these laws to their own advantage, but please do not forget the thousands of lives that are saved!! and the support of the victims that we should as a society always regard as sacred.
Thank you.
To all those ranting about how men are the main abusers:
http://www.batteredmen.com/NISVS.htm (This comes right from the stats of the latest CDC study)
http://csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
Hundreds of studies prove you wrong. And even if you were correct, does that make it ok to deny men shelter or services when they are abused? Should we also turn away homeless women since they are a vast minority (under 10%)?
A supreme tenant of 'detecting truth' is, If you believe a lie, you won't believe the truth.
Recently in Virginia Beach an Infant died at the hands of her foster mother, even though the natural mother told them of the change in her infant. I think the social worker was disposed to 'identify with' the 'new foster mother', and believed 'her story' over the mothers. Jumping to conclusions, and picking sides is not good for the children, the parents, or society. It is just like not believing 'the good priest' could possibly have 'fiddled with junior.' It is like garroting the truth, killing the messenger.
I've thought about this all day while trying to help hungry and displaced families find a little of what they need. And what many needed most was a moment of peace under the constant bombardment of structural violence handed down by a heartless nation.
Lately DRShow seems inclined to step in feces on purpose. And today you framed and managed renewal of an innocuous piece of legislation in place 18 years awkwardly, and you allowed it to become just another wedge issue in the culture war. The discussion today, especially on the comments board, degenerated into counter-assertions between traditional aggressive men who feel "done wrong" and women who blame individual men for the abuse of women in this society. This comes at a time when at minimum 80% of American citizens have been done wrong by an engineered economic set-back (manufactured injustice). When the Violence Against Women act was implemented it was already long overdue in that we already had an epidemic of domestic abuse, mostly against wives, children and the elderly, and this meager legislation did little to slow the escalation we have experienced since the mid-[1990s. To re-implement the the act we must ask if it has done any good. I believe it has done a little to save lives and limit suffering but it could not reform the overarching causation.
The United States is a dysfunctional culture overall. It is obsessed with violent spectacle and with war and with hypermasculinity. Pornography here is gonzo and extreme and there are too many guns in the hands of unstable people because we value the freedom to potentially shoot others above food security and financial security. You men who claim to be abused by women are pointing at an unlikely perpetrator. Many immature men view supporting the family as something to be shirked like paying a 10% federal tax rate on your wages. Why not blame your actual abuser, usually embodied in your corporate employer, and in the repressive laws that prevent you from negotiating or receiving a living wage and reasonable benefits, or having dignity in your workplace and work tasks.
Don't blame the protection of abused women for your emasculation in the scheme of things, your powerless and voiceless condition as a citizen. Think about how women carry all the same burdens as you, but are in addition charged with holding an underfunded home together, and with the primary child rearing, and with being a sex object, and then finally enduring your misplaced frustration. Why not let the Violence Against Women Act slide by and then ask for things you deserve from your oppressors who have the power to give it. If you turn on the other sex you can only take what little they have, and the Oligarchy in turn will extract and extort it from you. How much sadistic satisfaction can you find in self-defeat under a plutocracy? It just isn't there for you to find any more than is some imagined nest egg concealed the the kitchen crockery. You can twist her arm and pull her hair and black her eyes but she has nothing left to give you short of an assault or murder charge. Damn you DRShow for not allowing truth to be spoken to power, and especially on this issue.
Dianne,
VAWA is a legal disaster and constitutional failure. Innocent until proven guilty is substituted for guilty until proven innocent by this law.
Immigrant women are absusing VAWA by making false allegations against men to get citizenship as with the rape case of IMF chairman, Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
American women are abusing the law and order to gain immediate child custody, free housing, spousal maintenance or advantage in divorce.
We should never forget Susan Smith, who drowned her children and blamed a black man, or "Runaway bride" Jennifer Wilbanks who falsely claimed kidnapping by Hispanic males, or Crystal Gail Mangum, the female false accuser in the Duke University false rape case who later stabbed to death her live-in boyfriend. Did VAWA protect him? These women got caught. Most women get away with perjury at lying to police... and men's lives are ruined forever from false allegations.
Each year millions of men are falsely accused of domestic violence because of a female initiated attack or weaponized violence. Male statistics are under-reported as most males do not report such abuse.
I survived physical assault, abuse and false allegations of domestic violence by my wife in PG Co MD. Your guest is absolutely correct about the unintended consequences of VAWA creating single mothers, divorce and fatherless homes as a means of conflict resolution. VAWA does nothing to keep a family intact and everything to separate the husband or boyfriend from the wife or girlfriend. And arresting or incarcerating only males is not the answer PARTICULARLY, if the female is the aggressor or violence initiator.
The VAWA needs to protect Men equally as Women. There has to be stiff penalties for those who make false allegations in addition to advocates, and attorneys who recommend and assist in the false allegations. If there is no physical evidence what so ever of abuse there should be no arrest.
All cases involving a child custody action have to be looked at carefully. Far too many Women are abusing the VAWA in order to gain advantage in divorce and child custody cases. I personally know two men who have been victims of lies to gain advantage in divorce and child custody. They both suffered humiliation, financial devastation, career loss, and severe depression one committing suicide because the system believed a lying Women with no evidence and ruined a mans life.
Things need to change.
Here's a report from the Maryland Commission for Men’s Health on male victims of domestic violence, check appendix C:
http://dlslibrary.state.md.us/publications/Exec/DHMH/HG13-2407_2010(add).pdf
It has been a long time since I had any reason to agree with Republicans on any issue. I am happy to say that this time I agree with their position on this issue.
From my own experience I have seen what women can do with this power. I had a neighbor who was a victim of this law after his wife threw a lamp at him causing injury and then called the police who immediately arrested him on her word. He has since lost his family and his home because of that incident of which there was no doubt he was the victim.
To re authorise this law in its present form would be a continued attack on the male population similar to the Republicans' attack on women
George Marks
http://nostressforme.com