Efforts to Stop Iran from Developing a Nuclear Bomb
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2012-02-06/efforts-stop-iran-developing-nuclear-bomb
An Iranian protester holds a placard against Israel and International Atomic Energy Organization, IAEA, at the Imam Khomeini airport, on Sunday, Jan. 29, 2012, waiting for arrival of the agency's delegates, as the others hold posters of Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, a chemistry expert and director of the Natanz uranium enrichment facility in central Iran, who was killed in a bomb attack in Tehran earlier this month.
(AP Photo/Vahid Salemi)
The U.S. has long pursued what some call "diplomatic coercion" to persuade Iran to halt its nuclear program. Economic sanctions and international isolation are centerpieces of that strategy. Now there's talk that an Israeli airstrike targeting Iran's nuclear facilities could be imminent. The U.S. has urged Israel not to attack. President Obama reiterated yesterday that diplomacy remains the preferred solution. Analysts fear Israel's threat will unite the Iranian people and work against the regime change in Tehran that many desire. Diane and her guests will talk about the likelihood of an Israeli attack and the possible consequences.
Guests
Karim Sadjadpour
associate, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
Robin Wright
journalist, joint fellow at the U.S. Institute of Peace and the Woodrow Wilson International Center; and author of "Rock the Casbah: Rage and Rebellion Across the Islamic World."
Aaron David Miller
a public policy scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center and former adviser to Republican and Democratic secretaries of State; author of the forthcoming book "Can America Have Another Great President?"
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We are so lucky to have a president that despite the republicans best efforts to derail, to make the best decisions to keep us safe! Without the democratic party, all is lost.
hair: So many defense contractors and oil executives would tend to agree with you when it comes to the prospect of war with Iran. I don't expect much hope for peaceful settlement coming from today's DRShow panel either. At present we have no qualms about dealing with a nuclear armed Pakistan and a nuclear armed Israel. It is also likely Saudi Arabia controls some tactical (neighborhood range) nukes too. While Iran's government is authoritarian and in many ways unsavory it certainly is no worse than many regimes the USA has partnered with around the globe. The oil reserves in Iran remain sizeable and while it has limited refining facilities these are available nearby. Under international ageements Iran has not yet violated any nuclear agreements, or at least the UN and USA have not proven that they have. But the covert war already in progress against them is illegal and that tends to harden Iranian nationalism among their 80 million person population. Sometimes I suspect our Oligarchy is dominated by religious maniacs seeking Armageddon; and I'm sure many Iranians suspect the same about their overlords.
Dualistic American politics is a joke as concerns foreign policy. It's like a blind laundry test between Fab and Tide, just much dirtier. Why would you bring the Obamanauts up now? Even Hillary is disgusted and leaving politics. (source ABC News)
Thank you for the response. In light of anonymity I can tell you that I was in the sex trade for a long time and have learned a few things about white guys. Republican guy's are intimidated and made angry by black men and their sexual prowess, white liberal guys are submissive to it. Unfortunately the male mind revolves around sex so reactions to any topic conjure up sexual overtones. So I have to think if this is the effect of a black man in higher office in a world run by white guys, were probably in better hands. I have doubts a white man could have successfully taken care of Osama. These times are hard and we need strong leadership.
long... hair: If taking care of a CIA asset like OBL is the measure of manly virility we live in a sick twisted myth. Sex acts last a few minutes as compared to a long work week of 50 to 60 hours (of diplomacy?). Sometimes I wonder how much sex was involved when Dub "come in on Sadditty and worked so hard" planning a war party with Condi. I'd like to believe the myth that foreign affairs contains more substance than "Boardwalk Empire" but believing is becoming difficult. Covert operations resemble gangland (corporate) turf fights more and more (over oil and opium). Your analogy of a "strong leader" suggests the inverted racism that Obama is "not Black enough", but the bigger they come the easier they go soft.
Long Beautiful Hair,
Firstly I commend you for overcoming a difficult period of your life. But unfortunately, as with many that have had tramatic episodes, you seem to be putting your prior occupation into mainstream discussions as an explanation. Obviously you have been shaped by your experiences, as have I and everyone else. Seeing connections that are not there is a typical response to this. Though it is true sexuality has a role in decision making, my belief is that you are placing to much emphasis on it. Please take a step back and realize that not all persons come from your background and therefore have a more healthy relationship with persons and sexuality then the people that you interacted with previously.
Maybe "hair" would go back on the game if he/she hadn't turned gray.
The prowess rhetoric seemed to suggest it was not a "difficult period" (as conceived by the commentator) but an adventure of excitement, high earnings and sociological research. (We've all distilled that role from Penthouse Letters, as any juvenile can.))
The US Empire is ageing and gray, needs Viagra and youth creme every hour on the hour, but it wants to go back out there into the exhilaration of battle with Iran. It talks like Roy Batty in "Bladerunner" so maybe its "memories will be lost like tears in the rain." But right now I wish it'd let go of my fingers.
Hair has "... seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate." Long Dong Silver being keel-hauled and waterboarded. Drone operators on all fours puking their guts out.----- Sounds pretty much like another sealteamsix episode to me.
New title: "Oily efforts to stop Iran from getting a Chubby."
When there was talk quite a while back about bombing Iran to get rid of its ability to enrich uranium, some military analysts seemed to be saying that the only way to succeed was to use nuclear weapons. Does a bombing attack on Iran's enrichment facilities have a chance of succeeding with only conventional weapons? Can Israel succeed using conventional weapons without U.S. supplied bunker buster bombs?
In my opinion, attacking Iran is sheer lunacy. We do not need to start a war when there is every likelihood that the dictatorship will eventually be overthrown by the Iranian people, and when an attack on Iran will only increase support for the dictatorship. And attacking with nuclear weapons would set a terrible precedent that would haunt us forever. Some things are worse than a nuclear armed Iran whose government will eventually be overthrown by its own people.
Why do we have the blind love for Isreal? How do we benefit from a diplomatic relationship with them? If we or any other power were to vaporize them tomorrow, what nations would protest? Would it lead to more stability or instability in the Middle East?
We desperately need UN reform in order to deal with such problems on an international level .
Steve: Lighting off radioactive firecrackers now would truly be "The End of History." The Obama administration has transferred bunker busters to Israel, for unspecified purposes, but the underground installations the Persians have constructed are deep enough to be impervious.
The object is oil and oil profits, and the deception that nuclear proliferation is the important issue is a cruel hoax on sports-minded American gamblers. Our military loses the games but the Oligarchy makes the spread. "Say it ain't so, Joe."
The Iranian people have been told that enrichment is the road to energy independence as their reserves are exhausted. The American people have been told that fracking is the bridge to nuclear because sustainable will not maintain Elite profits. Obama has been told he needs patrioitic unity for a second term. And critics have been told that opposing Middle Eastern hegemony is anti-Semitism. Discussing these issues precipitates a shipstorm of lying.
jim davis: Rub on a little Vicks before firing up the vaporizer.
"I'm Julia Pancake Rankin filling in for Kathleen who is on assignment."
The situation becomes more and more reminiscent of pre-Iraq war with hardly any news stations giving an opposing viewpoint. Had Israel not been created in 1948, there would be no Islamic terrorists. None of this would even be an issue. After discussing Israel and Palestine with Chuck Schumer at a street festival last year, his last comment was "Well, should we have given them Italy?" The point is, you can't give someone else's country away, not Italians, not Palestinians. It starts a conflict that goes on for generations. I have no problem with a Jewish state, but it cannot be built on other's blood. And after listening to an NPR program on the Inquisitions last week, it occurred to me that it never was Arabs killing Jews, it has always been Christians. I certainly don't know how to fix any of it now, but we have surely been in the wrong for quite awhile and to throw more money and more weapons at the problem only escalates it, rather than sitting down and looking for a way to settle it equitably.
The U.S. has been baiting Iran for years. The P.E.N.A.C documents spelled this out clearly, but you won't hear this in main stream puke news....911 was the false flag created to bring this all about
but you won't hear this in main stream puke news....
yay, go team usa....puke
Check it out !
Research on the internet you naive rubes...
There are $103.67 billion reasons why we can allow Israel to take care of it's own interests in this case. That is the amount of money we have given to our de facto factor 51st state of Israel since 1949 (not adjusted for inflation).
Heck, maybe we should have given "them" Saudi Arabia and let the olive trees grow. But then what would we be paying for "gess" now?
urbanrage: Maybe that's what conservative talking pointers mean when they say "the elephant in the room."
Maybe Obama won the Nobel peace prize because the selection committee submitted to his sexual prowess.
I think LBH is right on with liberal male submission.
KLSweet-Sweetman: We're all going to Disney World after the Iran Bowl.
We went into Iraq without provocation. We changed the "reason" for attacking several times, the lasting reason of WMD also proved not to be true.
Why wouldn't Iran protect itself of such an "intervention"? What do they have to loose?
monte: Get the mind out of your gutter.
World literature suggests the Arabs as the pinnacle of sexual prowess.
"At night when you're asleep, into your tent I'll creep.
I'm the Sheik of Araby, your love belongs to me."
I believe it was Aaron David Miller who said that Netanyahu is one of the only Israeli leaders who use images from the Holocaust to manipulate support for an attack on Iran based on unsubstantiated claims. That is so untrue. Many Israeli leaders, Israeli officials and US Congress people use Holocaust images and language to stir up support for sanctions against Iran and an attack on Iran. This is incredibly common
Mike B._ So we flipflopped on our war crimes, big deal!
Go to RACE FOR IRAN for well informed discussions and information about the situation with Iran. Also INFORMED COMMENT, MONDOWEISS, WASHINGTON NOTE. Watch the Real News interview with former Weapons inspector Robet Kelly about the latest IAEA report.
"Welcome home Kathleen.... we'll take a break while we switch chairs, and be right back after this word from our underwriter."
Why is there little to no discussion about the US applying more pressure on Israel to sign the NPT and open up to inspections. I have read letter after letter to heads of the IAEA from leaders in that part of the world who express deep concern and a persitent threat from Israel's un inspected nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. When will Israel be pushed to play by the same rules that they demand that their neighbors abide by? When?
Too much of the rhetoric coming out of the Administration these days combined with the Israeli government's raising the spectre of The Holicaust again, is just too reminiscent of the rhetoric which led up to the war in Iraq.
Too much of the rhetoric coming out of the Administration these days combined with the Israeli government's raising the spectre of The Holicaust again, is just too reminiscent of the rhetoric which led up to the war in Iraq.
Too much of the rhetoric coming out of the Administration these days combined with the Israeli government's raising the spectre of The Holicaust again, is just too reminiscent of the rhetoric which led up to the war in Iraq.
Reply to jim davis:
"Why do we have the blind love for Isreal? How do we benefit from a diplomatic relationship with them?"
I have wondered what the answers are to both those questions myself. I imagine one reason has to do with the religious right. Another is probably very rich and powerful people in this country with ties to Israel.
I have no answer to your second question.
As far as this discussion goes, it is a joke to say that Iran is any threat to Israel. Israel has somewhere around 300 nukes. It would be national suicide for any regional country to attack Israel. IMHO the real reason that Israel and the US don't want Iran to get a nuke is because they don't want anyone in anyway to stand up to the two countries imperial ambitions in the region.
Once a country gets a nuke you can no longer push them around with impunity, and the US/Israel simply could not stand for that in the middle east. Israel wants to continue to expand into Palestine, and the US wants access to middle east oil.