Florida GOP Primary Results
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GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney now heads west. Following his resounding victory in Florida’s GOP presidential primary yesterday, his campaign is focused on the caucuses in Nevada Saturday. His Florida win is largely credited to a barrage of attack ads unleashed in the days before the vote. The target of those ads, rival Newt Gingrich, had hoped to build on his stunning win in South Carolina last month, and despite his poor showing in Florida the former speaker vows to press on. Join us for analysis of yesterday’s vote, what it means, and what’s ahead
Guests
Craig Shirley
republican strategist, Reagan historian; president and CEO, Shirley & Banister Public Affairs; and author of the new book, “December 1941: 31 Days That Changed America And Saved The World.”
Beth Reinhard
reporter, National Journal.
David Frum
columnist, Daily Beast/Newsweek,former speechwriter and special assistant to President George W. Bush and author of "Comeback: Conservatism That Can Win Again"; and co-author of "An End to Evil: What's Next in the War on Terror."
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Judging by most of the comments about tax fairness and the apparent demand for someone else to carry the tax burden for the give me class. I am not surprised by who is rising to the top in the GOP field. I blame Obama for our current state of division. The divisions were aways present but Obama has successfully en-flamed them to the point of real wide spread hatred. There exists in the black community a high level of contempt for white people and white culture. I do think Obama and his closest allies carry this contempt. I do not necessarily think there was a plan or outright acts causing division but I do believe these emotions permeate all of the decisions coming from the Obama administration. The black panthers have taken the white house!
The Black Panther Party (BPP) had four desires : equality in education, housing, employment and civil rights.
It had a 10 Point Plan to get its desired goals.
The ten points of the party platform were:
1) "Freedom; the power to determine the destiny of the Black and oppressed communities.
2) Full Employment; give every person employment or guaranteed income.
3) End to robbery of Black communities; the overdue debt of forty acres and two mules as promised to ex-slaves during the reconstruction period following the emancipation of slavery.
4) Decent housing fit for the shelter of human beings; the land should be made into cooperatives so that the people can build.
5) Education for the people; that teaches the true history of Blacks and their role in present day society.
6) Free health care; health facilities which will develop preventive medical programs.
7) End to police brutality and murder of Black people and other people of color and oppressed people.
8) End to all wars of aggression; the various conflicts which exist stem directly from the United States ruling circle.
9) Freedom for all political prisoners; trials by juries that represent our peers.
10) Land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice, peace and community control of modern industry."
About half the votes by the half of Florida Republicans who voted are identified as conservative. I just looked at the Wikipedia entry where the map shows Gingrich won northern Florida and Romney Southern Florida. Because I do not believe Florida Republicans are crying out for a Moon base I will assume northern Florida is a strong racist enclave among Republicans, similar to South Carolina. Had it been a two man race Gingrich might have won considering that Santorum 's(very conservative) 14% and Paul's (hospitible to racism) 7% might have gone predominately to Gingrich when both racism and extreme conservatism are considered. I was both horrified and amused when Santorum called Climate Change a hoax, in this the first summer of all future winters. Looking at Florida Republicans frightens me because it indicates this is a violent, selfish, ignorant and racist nation, at least half of it. If Allen West ever put on Romney's jeans and plaid shirt he might find himself enslaved on a sugar plantation.
DWS- namedropper- I assume you'll be voting Black Panther Party this time round.
How are those primaries going?
How about a straw poll for Trump, since CNN keeps saying voters are disappointed with the choices?
It is unfortunate that the only canidate for real change has been pushed out of reasonable contention due at least in small part to the MSM. It is bad enough the political situation we are presently in. But when you add the media, by and large, deciding which candidates are legitemate or not then we have the power in the most selfserving of all industries and must be carefull.
Would the panel please comment on the lack of voter interest in administrative policies proposed by the Republican candidates? Voters continuously admit they made their decision based on who would most likely be able to beat Obama. Aren’t there more valuable criteria for determining the future President of the United States?
David "axis of evil" Frum you helped lead this nation into an unnecessary and immoral war in Iraq. Rep Paul is the only candidate who has taken a solid stand against unnecessary wars based on unsubstantiated claims. Many of your team that lied the nation into Iraq have been building the stage for a military confrontation with Iran based on inflammatory legislation and other unsubstantiated claims. The head of the NIE said yesterday that Iran is not enriching uranium beyond the level that they are legally able under the Non proliferation treaty.
Do you think the Israel lobby including Sheldon Adelson and Israel will continue to push for an unnecessary military strike on Iran and drag the US into a confrontation. Do you think Gingrich and Romney will go along with this agenda? Rep Paul will not
Temporary measures taken during the "depression"?
Will recently said "Americans do not like to think about foreign policy unless they have to" The only candidate who clearly stands unncessary military confrontations based on unsubstantiated claims is Rep Paul. Now let's be honest he voted for the military response in Afghanistan but against the invasion of Iraq. He is the only candidate who supports direct negotiations with Iran. Gingrich foreign policy is clearly being driven by the radical right wing Isreal firster Sheldon Adelson. Please discuss how foreign policy will play in peoples decisions when it comes to the Republican candidates
Rep Paul is the anti war candidate for Republicans, Dems and Indes...he holds that card and influence
David "axis of evil" Frum could not be more wrong about Rep Paul. He is the only anti unnecessary war candidate. He receives more votes from Vets and active military members. He voted for the action in Afghanistan and voted against the invasion of Iraq. He will carry these votes into the Republican convention and keep this issue in the debates
These claims that "we got the goods on Ron Paul's racism" is a deception, I have read a lot of the so called racist rants in the R.P. news letters and came away with the impression although politically incorrect they were not racist for the sake of hating black people because of skin color but a harsh criticism of the realities that exist in black communities. Using the "we got the goods on you" is a very effective tool used by dishonest people in all walks of life and it's disgusting. It's easy to find out of context quotes from R.P.'s news letter but it takes real digging to find the quotes in context.
The only thing that I can figure is that David "Axis of Evil" Frums comments about Rep Paul are to undermine Rep Pauls anti unnecessary appeal that cuts through party lines. Clearly that is because Rep Paul stands against an unnecessary military confrontation with Iran based on more unsubstantited claims which David Frum supports.
I can't believe they let one of the panelist get away with saying that President Obama is more dependent on using a teleprompter than any past president. "That is just a fact."
Really? Reagan used a teleprompter, as did every President after him. By what measure is this a FACT!?
To your guest who touted and toasted the State Right policity, and its fifty policies on EDUCATION, all I can say is that when I was in engineering school, I and my fellow students were blessed to have a guest professor from germany. And, it was true, what he was teaching us, high schoolers in technical school in Germany learned. The one school policy of other countries that aren't Balkanized like the US, one system - one policy - 100 percent comprehention. Education based on human nature, and the nature of youth, not the nature of Southern State's Rightists, which is to keep 'THEM" separate and disparaged, and do their 'noblesse oblige' charities from their Oak Bordered drives, and and froom the Pavilions at their Docks. " Gee, if only they weren't so them, then they could achieve like us." "Oh, we do what we can. That is all we can do. Another Mint Julep, James. Oh, and have you brushed down a mount for our guests and detailed the car?"
The 'black panthers' have taken the White House?
Hard to believe you listen to NPR. Oh, wait, it was just my assumption that you actually listened....
I was surprised Jeb Bush didn't jump into the ring. I think he could have won the FL delegates and off to the White House race. Maybe he doesn't want it.
The republicans presided over Pearl Harbor, the Viet Nam war, and the Great Depression.
I agree that Romney and Bush are cut from the same cloth!
David, what basis do you believe that Romeny/Bush could pull together a strong administration. Bush, drew from rank and file of the republicans and we got the three disasters you note.
Where would Romney go? the Republican party is bankrupt and as you also noted... simply can not talk about the actual reality of housing, manufacturing and growth.
Typical MSM pablum...I blame the MSM for reinforcing the ignorance of the U.S. voting public.Shame, Shame....
Republicans may not be racist, however, at every turn they use rhetoric that pushes the buttones of feeble minded southern whites that make them believe that everything is being done for minorities and they are being left out, for example the "food stamp presidency" comment.
The most remarkable thing is that there are more whites on food stamps than there are minorities, but when you see a story about this, what is the image shown, it is not the poor white famly, it usually is a black of hispanic family that comes on the screen.
Yes, using the imagery that is out there Ronald Regan "the republican god" was a bigot.
The nation is allergic to the Bush name and 43's disastrous policies for now. Too many dead and injured American soldiers that Americans do not want to really think about and definitely do not want to think about the dead, injured and disaster in Iraq. Maybe later they will be ready for another Bush. After our nation completely drives over that huge pile of dead people who died based on Cheney and Bush's "pack of lies"
JayJordan wrote:
I can't believe they let one of the panelist get away with saying that President Obama is more dependent on using a teleprompter than any past president. "That is just a fact."
Really? Reagan used a teleprompter, as did every President after him. By what measure is this a FACT!?
The definition of a fact is a statement that is provable either correct or incorrect. What he said is provable, therefore it is a fact. Is it correct or not is the real question and I for one have not done the research to prove or disprove this assertion. I'm guessing, not a fact, that you haven't either. So please tell us what your issue is?
Just a reminder, the founding fathers were liberials. I do not find anything good coming from the Republican Party airing its dirty laundry for the last 3 years to the world. The "party" really is in pieces and shows no signs of correcting this any time soon. Since the Florida primary lowered the bar even more tells me the "candidates" will be deeper in the mud very quickly. I am reminded by both Mit and Newt not more than a month ago stating this was going to be a high minded positive campaign. Once again what their organizations will do and say for a vote sickens me. By November the American will be sick of all the money that will be spent telling us not to vote for anyone. That trash, along with the campaign banners that have not been cleaned up in the now past primary states will once again be left to the voting public to clean up for them. V
yes - Reagan's use of the term "Welfare Queens" was entirely racist. He was keying into the underlying "i've got mine, you shouldn't get a piece of it" mantra if the GOP at the time. Good grief.
Did Craig just seriously suggest that President Obama doesn't take seriously the plight of inner-city residents because he hasn't suggested putting the underpriviledged children to work as janitors in their schools??? Thank you for so clearly articulating how out of touch the Republican string-pullers are with the real world inhabited by actual human beings.
Tcatman wrote:
"The republicans presided over Pearl Harbor, the Viet Nam war, and the Great Depression."
What? F.D.R., LBJ, and JFK were republicans?? The houses of congress were also democrat controlled!
Vinny wrote:
"Just a reminder, the founding fathers were liberial"
Libertarians more likely, certainly nothing close to the modern definition of "liberal"
JayJordan wrote:
The 'black panthers' have taken the White House?
"Hard to believe you listen to NPR. Oh, wait, it was just my assumption that you actually listened...".
The black panthers 10 point plan is remarkably similar too Obama"s apparent agenda, you don't see that?
Wild animals belong in the wild. To cage them is cruel. The only expection is zoos and shelters for wild animals who will not survive in the wild.
Please do not invite Craig Shirley and David Frum again, at least not on the same show! This program was worthless with their constant bickering with each other. I know it can be hard to do, but the moderator should have stopped that bickering at the beginning of the show.
Very disappointing!