Friday News Roundup - Hour 1
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Former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain takes the lead in the latest GOP presidential polls. Former Governor Mitt Romney comes in second, but he gains the support of New Jersey’s Chris Christie. On the Democratic side, President Obama raises $70 million in the last three months for his re-election campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Congress comes together to pass long-delayed trade agreements with South Korea, Columbia and Panama. However, the President’s jobs bill fails to get the 60 votes needed to advance in the Senate. A panel of journalists joins guest host Susan Page of USA Today for the domestic hour of our Friday News Roundup
Guests
Doyle McManus
columnist, Los Angeles Times.
Julie Hirschfeld Davis
congressional correspondent, Bloomberg News.
Michael Scherer
White House correspondent, Time magazine.
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Diane and the panelists discuss the impact of the "Occupy Wall Street" and similar protest movements across the country, and respond to a listener's email criticizing the panelists for being "out of touch" with what is going on with the life and intent of the movement:
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Janice Bailey wrote:
"I'm curious as to why the only guests on the DR show are only from major main stream outlets like Time and Bloomberg. This has been a fairly recent trend - there used to be some alternative voices such as The Nation and Mother Jones. "
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Used to be? In as much as a little of the far left musings of David Corn and Katrina Van Den Heuvel go a long way, Heuvel will be Rehm's sole guest on Monday, November 14. Corn was on the FNR in May. Why is it DR/NPR policy to have on extreme lefty voices, but not to have on extreme righty voices?
It occurs to me that one thing Herman Cain brings to the campaign is the idea that a "real" person of color can garner substantial support as a presidential candidate. President Obama was seen by many as "not black enough"; a Jesse Jackson (in times past) was seen as having a specifically racial agenda. Cain is more mainstream and conservative. And I say this as a supporter of President Obama!
The Rebublican's rebuttal to Obama's push for taxing the rich has always been that it will kill job growth. Why has no one in the news media ever asked them why no jobs are being created while the rich are not being taxed?
Aloysius wrote:
"Listening to these pundits fold themselves into a pretzel, claiming that the Repubs have been as willing to compromise as the Dems"
It starts and ends with "we won the election, we write the bills". - Nancy Pelosi, January 2009
Democrats paid big for that in 2010 and they are still paying for it.
I miss the former rigor of the weekly news round up hours. I hope when Diane returns we will get more balanced analysis, but like Lee said, more of the horse race, belt-way centric slightly distainful discussion means I'll unfortunately become a former listener.
monte wrote:
"Ron Paul, 12 term republican congressman from Texas, winner of the Republican Leadership Conference straw pole this year. Ron Paul's place in the republican party is a non issue, he has earned his place as a true conservative and most if not all of the current line up of presidential candidates would be well served to follow his example of respect for the Constitution."
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Paul won that back in June. Herman Cain won the Midwest Leadership Conference Straw Poll this week.
Paul's place as a Texas congressman is a non issue. It's his place as a Republican POTUS that is an issue and his conspiracy woo beliefs continue to keep him from ever being a serious candidate.
Why no "extreme righty voices"?
What's the distance between the GOP's appointed leaders, media megaphones, and thinktanks v. its wingnuts? Hint: It can only be determined with an electron microscope.
They've been getting the residual benefit for years of NPR and our mainstream media normalizing their batsh!ttery and pretending that "moderate Republicans" still exist and have any influence in the party.
Good observation, Janice. I’ve noticed the slide to a more “main stream” environment as well. Maybe the reduction in funding to NPR and the like, hit her too! The main stream type of panelist will bring in the money, while the conversation and information decline in value. Strange how irony appears when values are compromised.
monte wrote:
"Ron Paul's place in the republican party is a non issue, he has earned his place as a true conservative and most if not all of the current line up of presidential candidates would be well served to follow his example of respect for the Constitution."
monte, I am glad Ron Paul is in the race, but I don't want him as President. I agree with every itty-bitty bit of what he says on the economy and the role of government in domestic issues. But I think his foreign policy would be extremely dangerous. This is not 1780 any more which seems to be where he is stuck. The world is an extremely dangerous place and there are people out there who really do want to kill us. His laissez-faire attitude to what is going on in the rest of the world is not practical. I think he's gotten a little shrill the past few weeks as well - a little like your goofy old uncle does at Chrismas time after he's gotten a snootfull. Again, I love him on the size and role of the FG and the economy, but not on foreign policy.
Monique wrote:
"I miss the former rigor of the weekly news round up hours. I hope when Diane returns we will get more balanced analysis, .."
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When has Rehm's participation in her own show had anything to do with balance? All of Rehm's sub hosts i.e., Page, Sesno, Kay, Roberts, Knoy, etc. are all liberals as is the regular host.
I received an interesting email petition from Ocuppied Wall street movement that I have not stopped thinking about and promoting. I coin it the Freedom to Creat Act, which would allow a 50% -100% loan forgiveness for all student loans. Think about it. If you removed the burden of student loans from thousand of American students who are struggling trying to make ends meet and having to contemplate their next job to pay off their bills rather than really taking the creative license to build and develop innovative ideas and technology, think how advance our country would be. It's this very luxury that wealthy have... the Freedom to Create! Especially removing this burden from our younger generation (people under 45yrs) are more likely to take the leep to start their own business, go in partnership and in the short term--> feed money back into the economy. Right now, most people can't even afford to pay their loans, and they've deferred for years. Yet the psychological imprisonment of "I owe $$$, still persists) and thus individuals are less inclined to do what makes them happy, rather doing what pays the bills which is short sighted for us. The younger generation are the biggest consumers, young families would be buying homes and cars. Young graduates would be more invested in their trade. Remove the student loan burden means putting money back into the system and encouraging dream building. Removing the student loan debt is America's Jubalee for its Youth. Removing the student loan debt would show a true commitment to valuing the profitability of higher education. Then going on with a better student loan program that has practical service opportunities and loan forgiveness programs that does not necessarily separate families.
These are just my thought, but I would love to galvanize around this movement!
KadeKo wrote:
"Why no "extreme righty voices"?
What's the distance between the GOP's appointed leaders, media megaphones, and thinktanks v. its wingnuts? Hint: It can only be determined with an electron microscope."
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Come on. What's the distance between Democrat appointed leaders Pelosi, Schumer, Reid, media megaphones Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews, Heuvel, Corn, v. its wingnuts, i.e. Michael Moore and Janeane Garofalo? Hint: 0
Nana Manin wrote:
"I coin it the Freedom to Creat Act, which would allow a 50% -100% loan forgiveness for all student loans. "
Just what we need - further abrogation of financial responsibility. We have already created a younger generation who will not "take the leep [sic] to start their own business" unless they can find somebody else to take all the risk. This will make it even worse.
Forgiveness of SLM loans would cost billions more in money we don't have. And what about the rest of the people they owe money to outside of SLM?! F*** 'em?
I always say, "there's a lot of ideas out there ... they're just not all GOOD ideas".
Dear Diane:
I don't think the founding fathers envisioned this country being run by career politicians. It seems more and more a myth that this country is run by its citizens through our elected representatives.
Please discuss this some time. There has to be a lot of us who are totally disgusted.
The comment or observation on your program by one of the guests today was that 'the time of compromising is now over' until the election next year. I am sure he is right and it is appauling. So until next fall, this country's citizens will have to endure the current economic problems in their personal lives because the Republicans want a victory for the party next year. They will continue to work to ensure President Obama fails and thus ensure the Republican party victory. If they worked this hard on OUR behalf, this country would quickly see improvement.
Instead, party politics for them trumps this country getting back on track as the rest of the world passes us by.
Why are more citizens not outraged at this lack of representation by our representatives?
The last group went to Washington supposedly with a mandate for change from the people. What they have done instead is to make sure nothing changes.
How do we make our voices heard? Are we totally powerless at having Washington serve the people of this country rather than their own political parties and special interests and their constant campaigning to get re-elected?
We have lost control of our elected officials and even in this age of fantastic communication capabilities, they seem not to hear us.
I love your show. You have a wonderful forum in which you present topics that effect our lives on so many levels, and I thank you for all I have learned by listening.
"What did he just say?"
During the 10 AM segment of the Friday, 14 October DR Show, a listener called in to point out that during the most recent Republican presidential candidates' debate, Herman Cain had demonstrated by his words that he did not understand payroll taxes, making claims for the effects of his proposed 9-9-9 tax scheme that are not borne out by the facts.
The listener took the media to task for failing to note the discrepancy/-cies between what Mr. Cain was asserting and the world as it exist in three-dimensional space.
One of your guests, while conceding that the listener could have his facts correct, essentially deflected criticism from fellow Fourth Estate-ers by saying that because Mr. Cain was not regarded as a front runner--I hope I state her response correctly--people were not paying especial attention to what he was saying. Therefore, no harm no foul.
Recognizing that no journalist can be an expert in all the many topics that may arise during the course of debates or in public exchanges between the candidates, or, for that matter, that may be contained in the utterances of our public officials, the question still remains: what is the role of the press? To serve as mere stenographers, reproducing the words these seekers of office/officeholders spew forth, or, in the case of TV, to stream their words and pictures over the airwaves?
How is a public that is likely less well-informed than our reporters and journalists to sort the wheat from the chaff? Or, to be more direct, who is to call out truth-distorters or outright fabricators?
I thought that function belonged to the press. So does the listener who called out Mr. Cain on his distortions of the payroll tax.
Am I to learn, this late in life, that it's every man for himself, Devil take the hindmost, and good luck figuring out where the truth lies?
Not one of the guest on this show and few of the MSM host who have gone down on the streets has actually allowed the protesters to speak for themselves the way MSNBC's Ed has done.
Most MSM host and guest have no idea, they just speak for the protesters instead of interviewing them the way ED has.
Those bemoaning the selection of panelists for Friday programs shouldn't expect much to change.
These shows transitioned from opinion/analysis to basically just analysis some time ago; before, there was usually a person from the Left, the Right, and a correspondent, not just three of the latter. The difference between these hours and "Washington Week in Review" is a chance to satisfy any curiosity about what the panelists look like.
I miss the old days, where a topic or statement - not matter how outlandlish - might be described as something other than "interesting".
Sigh.
Marcus...Reuel Marc Gerecht, many guest from American Enterprise Institute..plenty of radical righties. One issue that the Rehm show is really stirring away from is coverage of the I/P conflict. During the Palestinians push for UN General Assembly recognition, the Rehm show did not touch the activities and push. No programs that week focused on this important issue. While they have never really covered this issue fairly and guest tiptoe or salute to Israel the DR show is closing down on this issue.
On Iran it is amazing that they have yet to have former Bush administration officials and former CIA analyst Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann Leverett on this program to discuss the situation with Iran. Former Bush administration officials for goodness sake.
Come on Diane and team have them on to discuss this critical issue, We know the I lobby will object but go over that hump
Drew, appropriate response to Monte. However, I really cannot personally judge him and his motives as easily as he concludes about others. He's no Charlie McCarthy. He could be Edgar Bergen manipulating poor old Charlie. At this point, he could be on the pay roll of a far right party, "earning" a living. I just don't know. I do believe that all mankind ultimately will be judged by a higher power, including Monte and me.
AML asked:
"How do we make our voices heard?"
Well, if you want to be heard and listened to, don't start out complaining about carreer politicians and then singling out Republicans for blame! Are you surprised that some might hear that and tune out the rest of what you have to say?
"We have lost control of our elected officials and even in this age of fantastic communication capabilities, they seem not to hear us. "
True dat. The obvious solution is term limits for Congress. It works for the Presidency, it can work for the House and Senate as well. Three terms in the house, two in the Senate and you have to get a real job.
This will accomplish two things:
1) Reduce the effects of lobbyists being able to buy lifetime politicians
2) Encourage elected law makers to do the right thing when they don't have to worry about perpetual re-election.
kathleen wrote:
"Not one of the guest on this show and few of the MSM host who have gone down on the streets has actually allowed the protesters to speak for themselves the way MSNBC's Ed has done.
Most MSM host and guest have no idea, they just speak for the protesters instead of interviewing them the way ED has."
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FOX News has given the protestors a platform to speak for themselves. Careful what you wish for.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDuHqntfqUI
I am tired of defending Ron Paul, you either like him or you don't. I will say this about his foreign policy, I agree with it. I do not think the world is a more dangerous place and I do not have fear of attacks on the U.S.. Will there be successful terrorist attacks, probably yes. I think more Americans will be killed trying to prevent them militarily before they happen than would be killed in actual terrorist attacks. I think were throwing away hundreds of billions on GWOT for little or nothing and probably are creating more terrorists. 9/11 was an intelligence failure, it could have been prevented with the evidence that was on hand at that time. Everything that came after was a total waste. No surprise our government blew it, it is and was a disorganized dis functional mess and I have little doubt a well thought out organized plan would get through. The reason we have not seen another successful attack here is because of the incompetence of would be attackers, not because of military intervention and probably not because of competent work by the intelligence agencies. We get about as much out of them as we would with rolls of duct tape and plastic sheets.
Bob McGill wrote:
"It occurs to me that one thing Herman Cain brings to the campaign is the idea that a "real" person of color can garner substantial support as a presidential candidate. President Obama was seen by many as "not black enough"; a Jesse Jackson (in times past) was seen as having a specifically racial agenda. Cain is more mainstream and conservative. And I say this as a supporter of President Obama!"
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Kudos to you, Bob. Too bad the caller who hung the "liar" label on Cain doesn't have your perspicacity.
Judge Grady's verdict: Herman Cain is a simple-minded CEO spokesperson who thinks his audience is as simple-minded as he. His supporters either are as simple-minded or are smiling gators waiting to eat our lunch. In my 1969 dictionary there is a picture of Cain right beside the word Oreo. He says 9-9-9 is easy to remember but he changes it every appearance. Can you imagine the poorest people having to pay all that sales tax on top of local sales taxes? What a dope.
He might do better if 9-9-9 were a 9 inch pizza with 9 toppings for $9.99. Pie lovers are calling for Papa John and Li'l Caesar to enter the race. Maybe the race object would be to get it to your house in 9 minutes. Herman Cain's Lincoln would wind up wrapped around a pole, run off the road by Godfather's Cadillac. It goes to show how media attention can make any guy with money a presidential contender.
Marcus wrote:
"Too bad the caller who hung the "liar" label on Cain"
Well, he couldn't very well hang the "racist" label on him (though, unbelievably, some have tried!), so they will have to find some other way to try to belittle him.
Libs are scared to death of Herman Cain. They do not want to see him on a debate stage with BHO. Cain is a black man who looks and talks like a grown-up next to BHO. The contrast will be stark.
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Chairman
Racist Tea Partiers for Herman Cain
Don't give up Monte. Ron Paul will prove to be the people's choice.
Hey Grady Lee Coward
Found that racist comment from me yet?
Now when I read things like "In my 1969 dictionary there is a picture of Cain right beside the word Oreo", the term "racist" is actually the first thing that comes to my mind. Yes, I believe it is actually Grady Lee Coward who IS the racist here and this proves it.
Liberals are not the friends of black people unless they can keep them on the plantation where the liberals think they belong.
If MarcusTullius had actually listened to the caller's statement, he would've noticed his assertion was that Cain either didn't understand his own plan, didn't understand the actual underlying facts upon which he made his statement, or - barring either of those being true - was being dishonest - therefore, "a liar".
Try practicing some perspicacity of your own, MuddledThinker.
donholl wrote:
"If MarcusTullius had actually listened to the caller's statement, he would've noticed his assertion was that Cain either didn't understand his own plan, didn't understand the actual underlying facts upon which he made his statement, or - barring either of those being true - was being dishonest - therefore, "a liar".
Try practicing some perspicacity of your own, MuddledThinker.'
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Thank you, I shall. There is no mention of the word "either." Ken was just compiling his special list.
Caller Ken in Gaithersburg, Maryland
"Why isn't it news that Herman Cain:
A) doesn't understand his own proposal
B) know how much people pay in taxes
or
C) is a liar"
Caller Ken is saying Cain is a simpleton and lazy as well as a liar. I wonder what Ken's wife Barbi has to say about this.
Betty81 wrote:
"Don't give up Monte. Ron Paul will prove to be the people's choice."
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You will have to wait until January 6, 2012 for the 38th People's Choice Awards.