The White House, GOP Contenders and Jobs
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2011-10-12/white-house-gop-contenders-and-jobs
In last night’s debate among Republican presidential hopefuls, Governor Mitch Romney seemed to shore up his position as front runner in the race. But his chief rival, at this point, Herman Cain, also gained ground. The debate focused on the U.S. economy and what each candidate would do to boost growth. Yesterday the Senate blocked President Obama’s $447 billion jobs bill. Congress is now likely to consider some elements of the bill separately. For many voters the dismal job market remains the number one concern, but so far, none of the current round of ideas seems to be gaining traction: Please join us for a conversation about politics and the economy
Guests
Chris Cillizza
author of The Fix, a Washington Post politics blog, and managing editor of PostPolitics.com.
Lawrence Mishel
president of the Economic Policy Institute.
Brad Close
vice president of public policy, National Federation of Independent Business
Jim Tankersley
reporter, National Journal
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when laid off of olde 'good' job' the termination unemployment amount 'higher' than newer 'good' job
yes
MOSTLY unemployment continues policy of family feeding and sheltering together- darn hippies
agree incentivise AND they will come... one of the 400 with half US wealth BOUGHT NC elections last time(now records of money disclosed- thankfully law now deregulated so future spending will remain where IT belongs- out of public sight
Pay ME Under the table!
That's what I meant to say - prospects have asked to get paid under the table because they are getting paid for watching TV. It's INSANE!
Steve , wake up man! Blaming unemployment recipients for unemployment is hate speech. Our workforce has shrunk by millions. How can we blame those who have been put out. Education will not open positions, especially when high tech employers can resort to visas to cut salaries by half. We live in a totalitarian one business friendly party state, and still the fascists whine like banshees. Demand better panelists, Steve. Quit eating their exhaust.
AGREED must make over 7 digits THEN okay to be paid to masterbate- er- watch tv, run world, etc
only governemnet officials and those doing business should have angles and 'perks'
LOL
yes the black market- IT grows ! (and why US use 'illegal' prices to measure inflation- remarkably honest metrics
thoughout world)
Please understand that the word 'Energy' is used by the fossil fuel industry to mean Fossil Fuel. Rick Perry and his constituents are talking about oil & gas jobs- probably through de-regulation. How could this possibly result in national economic recovery? Or even, improvement?
Earlier this week, an economist on this show (Third Industrial Revolution) noted that there may not be a recovery from the current depression without real energy diversification.
This does not mean 'clean burning natural gas'. It means alternative fuels, wind and solar. That economist gave the example of successful programs in Germany.
I expect the educated people on a Diane Rehm panel to de-bunk the 'Energy' nonsense from the oil industry.
But thanks for a great job overall.
as alive and not dead veteran, but with a limp, BUT white without pesky housing concerns anymore, where MAY US go to apply???
The argument from Brad Close that "nothing can be done because next year is an election year and we'll have to see what the voters want" is patently ridiculous, because every other year in the United States is an election year. The underlying meaning of that position is "nothing can be done, unless it's what the Republicans want."
It is very depressing that a lobbyist like Brad Close would have a platform from which to spew bought and paid for partisan talking points.
short term gains
some jobs
and loss of potable water
win win lose
good luck turning back the wall of money, er- 'citizen', from flowing THRU
but allow more efficient USe of scoopers by concentrating populations
Susan Bankster: In a labor "market" wages offered determine the type of worker you can afford.... or does the market only work on the more powerful side? A banker would be no expert on hiring or unemployment benefits... until she is laid off. Then she'd wise up.
As a commercial banker, please tell us about the "extend and pretend" situation in commercial real estate. We can all see the empty stalls.
The truth is employers prefer not to hire the unemployed. The truth is employers prefer not to hire anyone who has earned a "living wage" in the past. The truth is employers discriminate against older workers. The truth is employers prefer subsidized workers still living at home with Mom and Dad, even if they are 40. The truth is the employer might be the first to propose an under the table cash arrangement with a person getting a small unemployment insurance check. The truth is they might discard this person and seek another when benefits expire. We live in a corrupt country from the top down.
what do with unemployed educated youth???
train them in REAL not IDEAL skills
twixt homeless vets, and restless young, the party has yet to sprung
set against the 'red dawn'- all ready for US new country
why they may just take US back
to a government of the people, for the people, and home grown jihadists?
Too true Pancake
I think it has been clearly established that the flea-bagger protests are complete astroturf orchestrated by anarchists, communists and other Democrats.
So the handful of individuals who may or may not be avoiding work due to unemployment benefits means that we should deny everyone benefits? How is this logical?
This is directed to Brad. He has defeated any creditability he might have had by making unsubstantiated claims of people not willing to move off of unemployment.
I am a small businesses owner and I have never encountered that situation!
I would like to note that the National Federation of Independent Businesses ought to be named the National Federation of Republican Businesses. They showed up at our business with a dog and pony sales pitch and we made a donation and joined. Later on when we looked at their website and saw that their positions we all counter ours, we cancelled our membership. If you look at all of the stated positions, you will see they are on the right. So, left leaning businesses like ours would not be a member and thus would not be voting in their polls disjointing their representing all small businesses.
alenick wrote:
"This is directed to Brad. He has defeated any creditability he might have had by making unsubstantiated claims of people not willing to move off of unemployment."
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Then you are not going to like POTUS Obama's chief economics advisor's study that substantiates Brad's "claim." Alan Krueger, the Princeton economist recruited to lead President Obama's economics team,
concluded that when Congress increased the duration of benefits from 79 to 99 weeks in November 2009, jobless workers' search duration lowered.
http://www.irs.princeton.edu/pubs/pdfs/562.pdf
A country where top 5% controls 90% of it's resources is not representative of a government “for and by the people”.
It’s time to stop pretending we live in a Democracy and rename it something more appropriate.
Those that have supported trickle up economics for past 30 years, should be enormously happy- now that the top few % have all the $. Anyone who was delusional enough to believe it would “trickle” back down to everyone, SHOULD have been rudely awakened by now.
MarcusTullius wrote:
"Then you are not going to like POTUS Obama's chief economics advisor's study that substantiates Brad's "claim." "
Abolutely. I know people whose behavior with respect to job search has been affected by the change in the length of UE benefits.
alenick, just because you have never encountered it, does not at all mean that it doesn't exist.
If you're going to offer UE at all, Newt's idea is the best on this - if you collect a check, you're enrolled in a retraining program. No retraining, no check. This will easily separate the people who are interested in actually working and improving themselves, from the sponges.
William22 gets my vote for "most astute comment of the day" - "Anytime you incentivise an activity you will get more of it. " It's the mirror of, "Anytime you tax an activity you get less of it."
These are two simple, basic and ever-true principles of economics that liberals, for all their efforts, and even good intentions, will never be able to reverse.
You have deal with the world and human nature as you find it. Liberals/progressives, God bless 'em, still haven't learned that.
Yuckbert: So we should make policy based upon the hate speech and perjury of sadistic nihilist male supremacists? Now that's anecdotal evidence! Repeat it real loud 24/7 until even you sadistic nihilist white male supremacists believe it yourselves. I still can't understand how employed Republican businessboys have all this free time to repost Oligarch talking points on DRShow... unless it's their main job. It just may be their only possible employment.
"Yuckbert"
Hey numbnut. Did I disrespect you? Instead of just firing insults why don't you once try forming a cogent argument. Go ahead, show me an example where these statements are not true.
"Anytime you incentivise an activity you will get more of it. "
"Anytime you tax an activity you get less of it."
Your biggest problem is, you're ignorant.
Dear Monte,
this is what all businesses in trouble do: they borrow from the future - all borrowing is actually from the future - (provided that someone is willing to lend them) to make it in the present. The hope of course is that buying some time this way allows them to straighten out their finances and come out ahead in the long run. GM did that and seems to be doing ok. The US government can at this point borrow at record low rates (1.7%!). It would be stupid not to do so, provided the money is spend on long term investment (e.g. infrastructure). Wait a minute! This is exactly what Obama wants to do!?
The problem arises when borrowing is used to just spur consumption. That is what we did in the 00's (and i do not mean just the government). So we managed to expend all our collateral (our home equity) to create a false sense of growth (one praised by the likes of Brit Hume and George Will, who, interestingly, are quite silent now about their then praises of the then-administration's fiscal policies).
Reasonable conservatives (e.g. David Frum) have publicly admitted that short term borrowing and investment is really the only policy that makes sense given the present situation of the economy. I am sure he will be exiled from the party by the "true conservatives" for his indiscretion. To his credit he removed himself from being the conservative voice in the program "market place".
Love the fact thet Brad Close wallked all over the moderator with his lie or his harboring of criminal activity. The Diane Rehm show was swiftboated....
Failure to accept work negates benefits. Suckers.... I expect better from this show but guess that is just wishful thinking.
monte wrote:
"I think it's clear the only thing government can do is steal from the future to make a better today. "
fairtaxman then wrote:
"this is what all businesses in trouble do: they borrow from the future - all borrowing is actually from the future - (provided that someone is willing to lend them) to make it in the present. The hope of course is that buying some time this way allows them to straighten out their finances and come out ahead in the long run. The problem arises when borrowing is used to just spur consumption. That is what we did in the 00's (and i do not mean just the government). "
True dat. But the difference between personal borrowing and government borrowing is this; personal borrowing puts the PERSON on the hook and they have to find someone to lend. If a person chooses to mortgage his own future and someone is willing to hold the note, fine.
When government borrows, it's different. Government can put generations UNBORN on the hook for its debt. That's what we have done. Today the figure is somewhere north of 40K for every man, woman, and child in the U.S. We will NEVER pay that off in a generation or even two, even if the size of the FG were slashed today (good luck with that). Putting our kids, grandkids, and even THEIR kids on the hook for our inability to manage our money is immoral first, and should be illegal second (see balanced budget ammendment).
I, too, take exception to Brad Close's contention that he didn't really mean to insult the involuntarily unemployed. As a spokesman for the NFIB he is responsible for his words and how he represents the group he was hired to represent. Sincerely, Two Masters Degrees and Involuntarily Unemployed
By the way, I'm getting ready to contact the NFIB and apply for one of Close's many, purported vacancies. I'll let you know how that works out.
markieobrien wrote:
" Failure to accept work negates benefits. Suckers.... I expect better from this show but guess that is just wishful thinking."
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Where do you get your info? When Congress increased the duration of benefits from 79 to 99 weeks in November 2009, jobless workers' search duration lowered. How do you turn down work when you are not looking for it?
Why do libs criticize The DR Show when the steady diet of liberal pabulum is occasionally fortified with facts that are the only source of true nourishment on NPR?
janetm wrote:
"Sincerely, Two Masters Degrees and Involuntarily Unemployed."
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There are many like you who are education heavy, but experience light. Perhaps you should have taken a course in entrepreneurship?
markieobrien wrote:
" Failure to accept work negates benefits. Suckers.... I expect better from this show but guess that is just wishful thinking."
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Where do you get your info? When Congress increased the duration of benefits from 79 to 99 weeks in November 2009, jobless workers' search duration lowered. How do you turn down work when you are not looking for it?
Why do libs criticize The DR Show when the steady diet of liberal pabulum is occasionally fortified with facts that are the only source of true nourishment on NPR?
oh, I get it. The employer offers employment but the potential employee refuses to accept until UE runs out. The employer reports to mister Close the incident but neither reports the crime. Sheesh, please go spout you pap elsewhere.
markieobrien wrote:
"oh, I get it. The employer offers employment but the potential employee refuses to accept until UE runs out. The employer reports to mister Close the incident but neither reports the crime. Sheesh, please go spout you pap elsewhere."
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Since Alan Krueger, the Princeton economist recruited to lead President Obama's economics team, agrees with Brad Close, you will not be voting for Obama, yes?
Try reading up on the actual facts before doing your best Rachel Maddow impersonation.
http://www.irs.princeton.edu/pubs/pdfs/562.pdf