The White House, GOP Contenders and Jobs
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2011-10-12/white-house-gop-contenders-and-jobs
In last night’s debate among Republican presidential hopefuls, Governor Mitch Romney seemed to shore up his position as front runner in the race. But his chief rival, at this point, Herman Cain, also gained ground. The debate focused on the U.S. economy and what each candidate would do to boost growth. Yesterday the Senate blocked President Obama’s $447 billion jobs bill. Congress is now likely to consider some elements of the bill separately. For many voters the dismal job market remains the number one concern, but so far, none of the current round of ideas seems to be gaining traction: Please join us for a conversation about politics and the economy
Guests
Chris Cillizza
author of The Fix, a Washington Post politics blog, and managing editor of PostPolitics.com.
Lawrence Mishel
president of the Economic Policy Institute.
Brad Close
vice president of public policy, National Federation of Independent Business
Jim Tankersley
reporter, National Journal
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It would be something if the sleeper in this race would be the obviously honest Ron Paul. Herman Cain sure makes a nice presentation and I like him a lot, the man sure turns the democrat plantation mentality on it's head. The human mind is sure strange in that the abusers are often protected by the abused. You always have to worry about who the opposition wants to run against, in this case it is the stuffed suit known as Romney.
Diane, I am concerned that this job bill does not sufficienty address those with college degrees, or recent graduates, and more opportunities for them to find work. Since the technological revolution most jobs that have been exported or decreased do to technology, are information-intensive, rather than labor intensive jobs. Most of this job bill seems to add more labor intensive jobs. As far as increasing and highering more teachers, not everyone went to college to become a teacher. So What do we do with these young people, who judging by the protests, are educated and unemployed. It would seem that Congress and the President would need to address this segment of the population. After all, they have student loans and are significantly effected by the job exodus. Thankyou.
Diane, I am concerned that this job bill does not sufficienty address those with college degrees, or recent graduates, and more opportunities for them to find work. Since the technological revolution most jobs that have been exported or decreased do to technology, are information-intensive, rather than labor intensive jobs. Most of this job bill seems to add more labor intensive jobs. As far as increasing and highering more teachers, not everyone went to college to become a teacher. So What do we do with these young people, who judging by the protests, are educated and unemployed. It would seem that Congress and the President would need to address this segment of the population. After all, they have student loans and are significantly effected by the job exodus. Thankyou.
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Bad news on the Herman Cain front. According to the Wall Stree Journal editorial on October 7, Cain's 9-9-9 plan allows a business deduction for all legitmate business expenses except wages. So the owners of virtually every labor intensive business would see their tax rates be nearly double that of ordinary workers. Given that, everyone would want to be an employee, not a business owner. In addition, the 9% sales tax on the purchase of stocks, bonds and real estate would probably kill the activity in those areas. I've addressed these questions to Mr. Cain's campaign asking for clarification but have yet to receive a response.
Please address the lunatic statement made by Ms. Bachmann last night. To infer that Herman Cain is the anti-Christ is something that should be addressed by the media. She has made many statements in the past that have been considered from out of left field, but this is beyond the pale. To those who believe, it is a statement that could insight bigotry. Why is this candidate still considered a viable choice for the highest office in the land?
The auto companies received help from the gov. which was the right thing to do and now they are making money. The economic guru Romney still says that it was the wrong decision. So according to the leading candidate the American auto industry should have failed. How many jobs would that create? The GOP clearly doesn't care about the poor or middle class and unfortunately the American people will most likely give this party power again to find this out once and for all. When will the American voter wake up?
I think it's clear the only thing government can do is steal from the future to make a better today. The short term gain will not be worth the price because we will inevitably be in even worse shape for the next economic downturn. We need to get government on a fiscally sustainable path and then economic problems will in time take care of themselves. Any candidate that says otherwise is just plain lying. I am afraid most voters are just too short sighted to vote for a smaller government. Obama's job plan is exactly what we don't need.
Why are we going through all this pretend stuff? The fix was in long ago.
Romney is the global corporate oligarch designated Republican Party nominee and Barack Obama is the financial sector corporate oligarch designated Democratic Party nominee. You can test this by seeing how close their actual platforms jibe, and they jibe really well, especially in the lucrative area of foreign policy. Herman Cain is running for Vice President.
Laws regulations and economic policy are funneled through the Federal Government by these same wealthy interests. They've already been given almost everything they want. Rather than declare success they are testing the American people to the breaking point with their mock capitalist sadism. Every time they declare a reform we lose more choices, assets and rights. The so-called "liberal" Obama administration had 3 moves recently:
1. Killing American citizens without due process using remote controlled weapons.
2..Advocating for the passage of 3 job-exporting trade agreements.
3. A Social Security tax holiday ... for employers!
And they will probably OK the soot pipe from Canada to South Asia via Texas before too long. Choices? We don't got any. Occupy.
Please don't let the speaker from the National Federation of Independent Business get away with the slur against those receiving unemployment benefits.
A lot of well-meaning people claim that those on unemployment are lazy, unemployable, shiftless, money-grubbing, and cheaters. Oh, if only that were true - it would make dismissing them so easy.
But, the average monthly unemployment check is about $1200 per month. In my state (MD) that will rent you a small 1-bedroom apartment plus a weekly visit to McDonalds.
But, there are currently 4 job applicants for every 1 available job. So, 3 out of 4 couldn't get a job if they wanted to.
Of course, certain industries have jobs - but only if you have critical training: computer expert, high-skilled manufacturing, etc. There are 3 million such jobs, but our workers don't have the specific training required. Indeed, the training may take years for many of the jobs.
What are the Republican plans for creating new jobs for those 3 job applicants who can't possibly get a job even if they try? What are the Republican plans for training 3 million workers to take on high-skill jobs?
The Republicans have been in control of the House for 9 months. Where are their plans for solving any of these or other problems? Or is it just easier to talk nasty about people who have lost their jobs?
To even quote "most economists" on these new trade giveaways is to not see the problem. The Chicago School of Economics is going to prove responsible for the new Great Depression around the corner.
China does not believe in free trade, it centrally manages it, all to its own advantage. It charges us $20 K for every Harley we sell there, and that IS A TARIFF.
Brad Close said: "small businesses have tightened their belts, and they want their government to do the same".
That's a spiffy slogan, but it reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of the recession. Do these businesses want their customers to tighten their belts? The fact that everyone is tightening their belts IS THE RECESSION. No more, no less.
The government is a big customer. It's also the only one with the courage to spend money in the middle of a recession. At least it WOULD have that courage, if not for the Republicicans.
just back - 125 'potential' employers in town neAr base...
and from interview and sampling appears closer to 20 apps NOT '5' per 'opening... for almost ALL minimum wage(or less) no benefit 'right to work' positions
police needed for crowd control and looked like rioting so US left
angry and crazy begins to describe scene
luckily no reporters left to cover
Given the overabundance of housing, I think it is totally unrealistic for anyone to expect new jobs associated with building new houses for a LONG time. It is time for that group of small businesses to get real, and start working on improving the housing we already have: creating duplexes and apartments out of unffordable megamansions, upgrading for energy efficiency, etc. Of course that's unglamorous, and less lucrative, so they would prefer to keep asking for jobs, jobs, jobs or collecting unemployment. Tired of hearing that.
Would like the small business representative to address that.
Two weeks until HOMELESS jobless two degrees bilingual(more if you count music and computer languages) veteran 'hero'- hate long cliches.
150 k plus(burial plot- legal here- value only to US)
130 k county valuation
7o k owed NFCU
oops ~8o k as owe 640 per month behind ten behind(no partial payments allowed) so 6400 PLUS
$3600 for NFCU lawyer(nice law) costs plus photos of home for NFCU and monthly delivery of vague notice with illegible or incoherent labeling(offspring of 'contractor' lowering labor and tax costs? Shhh- met them once(finally) and their family losing their homne as well so shhhh.) The scads of SCAM junk mail looking more legible and legal looking(duh- that's how IT works).
$3600 for 30 minutes of 'face'/ court time. Nice scam- er- job if you can pay the entrance fees. So HAD owed $6400 and total of 70k(actually less but stay focused please)
NOW 80 k
DURING those ten months no matter how many calls to NFCU with how many different numbers NO assistance or INFORMATION(one out of fifty could occasionally provide varying amounts owed... ALTHOUGH account information verified hundreds of times(one call conservatively averaging 3 transfers(2-7 per call) EACH with verification(5 minute per WHEN smoothe LONGER when US try to know IF answer available PRIOR so can be 'helped' elsewhere before wasting... and call back as was disconnected for being unreasonable). Pretty black dots - yes? Nice try BUT
NFCU lawyer out of area and no long distance available(ITs a poor thing- love technology education could crash/ dump/ delete ALL of NFCU, lawyer, and related networks AND memories AND not get caught- BUT stealing long distance from locotelco get U in REAL trouble- ROI tight on that) so at court(twice- 15 minutes each- at least SOME part of government/ society functioning well) meet US justice(differebt lawyer as 'local' rep for out of area law firm. And a useless ploy to gain favor with judge?... if paper accepted for a statement- NOPE lol... but stay on point please... as time is short and not looking pretty...
150 US value
130 offical value
80 owed(thanks U know who)
Will go at auction for 15/ 30/ 80 k who knows(county, where records stored cannot- darn technology)? BUT will still owe IRSs for 'gains'/ taxes(~16 k which will USe any 'profit' from 'sale' LOL(US tax error after calling IRS and complying. IRS not responsible AND US should have paid for program or such to do them correctly as IRS not responsible for their tax advice RFLMFAO)... Not that US will EVER be able to 'repay' another dime(owing IRS ruins clearance AND ITs jobs all REQUIRE clearances for an appearance of PUBLIC security(for shielding boondoogles?)... US relieved that monthly income of $200 food benefit will stop on loss of home(no address) and the burden of knowledge that US hampering the job creators.
Oh and self-medicating is still ALL the rage nowadays for veterans with all the rage so WILL have something/ ones to pass the time so may trade for whatevers popular. Hear ITs a communal society- share and share alike... looking forward to new adventures ONCE again !
When working four years paid/ gave 100k to taxes/ donations.
So already feeling guilty about stopping those payments. Nice diversion indeed 'self-medicaid'.
POSTED to US Representative... and became suspended for/ from posting on facebook LOL. Facebook another 7 posts by ITself though so may only be coincidence AND paranoia... though have been told IF they ARE out to get you IT's not paranoia! Stay focused...
So good news some job creator will purchase US dream- er- home(pocket easily 'profit' 50 k plus(only 3o k last auction/ only auction US heard/ able to find PRICE of... and for one months 'work'(under the table- er- professional independant contractors- RESPONSIBLE for all that pesky paperwork like taxes). But IRS out of luck if less(least US income taxes for prior medical expenses returns)
Nice job lawyer, banker, 'job creator'(hiring a family crew- no racists poor white religious rights 'contracting' for about $100 per day for two male adults- 12 hour days).
Not so good to be whistle blower, oath follower, or perform excellent work(takes a little 'extra' time poor ROI- AND US object!).
Good news too as surplus on food account as no one really eating that much anymore(not hungry and gas needed for store trip)... so that will stretch virtual $$$ until accounts frozen(fifteen days?). Oh and no more 'legal' home- er- auto or auto insurance LOL hysterically now.
Which allows US as NEW criminal when 'caught'(unless suiciding by cop- very easy nowadays- AND if VA sends one MORE suicide pamplet in mail just might! BUT backl to-) will allow US 'free' healthcare, lodging, meals, and entertainment(sex, drugs, and TV?) once arrested(NC 2008 ~24000 per year per inmate).
IT is ALL about the 'right' attitude and grinding body parts on stones for the greater good... nose, leg, back, damaged APOLOGIES as not what US USed to be... luckily as prior to 1991 terrorists were criminals and as such if two statements from witnesses provided about events ordered never to discuss (LOL- u gotta lovit) and other such forms yaddayadda injuries sustained MAY be compensable AND as US official records destroyed 9/11... good luck... AND why US voted for REALLY new NUT as protest got US lol.
Luckily notice received about Soylent Green admittance AND all is forgiven(and soon forgotten according to promises and ITs not FDA or USDA or for profit legal drug pushers selling anything that may trigger further organ damage or death SO there ! From the brochure(AND powerpoint presentation) IT looks SO wonderful.
A little vague what US new responsibilities may be BUT
US very trusting of US so... ALL worries will vanish... and ALL concerns met... so layback AND enjoy the inevitable... and vid goes to music and shows reporting directions to -redacted- that by NSA, NDA, and -redacted- cannot be fully disclosed(lawyers!).
Here US thought 'free' mail promoting US Rep stand on balanced budget AMENDMENT distracting S'illiness'- 'hey lady THAT means IF attacked US no can afford to fight back???
now layback and relax...- don't be distracted...
Are US there yet ?
Apologies reactions to anxiety AND stress with pain causes a
- yea with form filling and testifying(you go girl- Thanks) or memory(sudden noise and guns, badges, trigger so eviction(and jail sometime) WILL BE fun.
Steve - you asked Brad to tell you where these jobs are and that if he could tell you everyone would be on the bus to get those jobs. Brad evaded your answer and only said there were out there. Please ask him again to tell us where these jobs are? Thanks, Paul
Georgetown Texas
The panelist that inferred that unemployed people choose unemployment benefits over a job is ludacris and insulting, but we understand that that is what conservatives do! That's why Republicans will lose the next election cycle. Then to attribute his assertion to "what we hear" is as bad as Herman Cain prefacing a question of fact with, "I don't have facts to back this up, but..." I you cannot site a source, then quit playing Michelle Bachmann with the lives of the working class.
Can you please stop blaming unemployment benefits for companies not hiring? Right now it's easy for companies to find an overqualified person to do a job because the hiring pool is so large. How about we blame the policies in this country for the last 30-40 years that have been shrinking the middle class and wealth distribution for everyone but the top income earners?
Wide spread demand is not coming from 1% of the country; it's coming form 99% of the country. 99% of the country is losing wealth - of course demand as a whole will shrink for goods. Greed is our problem.
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The conservative guest keeps brings up about unemployment benefits prolonging hiring that he acknowledges as not being an accurate representation of the whole problems, just a small one, yet he keeps citing it as a reason to drop unemployment benefits. This is failure of an argument , and I see a lot of conservative politicians using the exact same type of argument. He didn't even offer an example of a study, just what he's heard.
Very good...I heard that...
Hello,
In response to the myth of those on unemployment turning down jobs .... this has happened in our construction business. It is not a myth
Re: people not taking jobs because they're receiving unemployment benefits: this type of behavior by the gentleman who made the statement is at the heart of our differences. Even though he says it's not a blanket affect (taking of benefits then get work) it's just how those types (republicans moreover right-wingers) simplifiy a complicated issue. Just as they keep repeating "too much regulation kills jobs, higher taxes kills jobs," etc., they fail to deal with something very complicated and exponentially getting more complicated because they and we rely on "Growth" as a pillar of our economic system. Culture change is required and they're not wanting any of that... and this is why the dollar is getting less and less valuable to the middle-class and lower classes.
TRUE TRUE - It's Hard to hire now. I've tried to hire numerous people that didn't want to work until their unemployment ran out. Several asked about getting paid so they could continue to get money. All these people that are insulted by the comment are out of touch. Anytime you incentivise an activity you will get more of it. Right now we are paying people not to work. Why are people surprised that this works. The small business guy on your pane is RIGHT.
I have no doubt it's happening, but it is not happening on a scale nearly large enough to justify dropping unemployment benefits.
I have to disagree with an earlier comment that the Federal Government was not instumental in the 2007 housing collapse and subsequent banking/financial failures. Our legislating body in Washington has been pandering to big corporations to dissolve many regulations that kept business from running amuke. Over the past 20 years, congress has been lobbied to for tearing down all regulatory barriers, just so they can have every advantage to business unlimited deals. As you can see, they won and the American public suffers.
No current presidential campaign candidate will touch this issue because they see good deals down the line for him/herself and their relatives/friends in the status quo system.
willing to relocate worldwide
even under fire(again)
and that pesky home ownership for 16 years no longer a burden thanks to terminated benefits of 'unemployment'
again only job offers the illegal kind...
never should have 'vacationed' to bury mother or father
that 'gap' and economy tank... made US homeless veteran- US hate cliches
Semi: You have my attention. But why not talk in complete sentences?
When your house goes head for a big city OCCUPY.
The bank's not gonna let you keep that house no matter what.
A country with so much wealth that transfers bad gambling debts by the wealthy onto taxpayers cannot last.
We will have to establish a socioeconomic floor to motivate full employment.
Don't off yourself.
Let global corporate crony capitalism off itself.
It may take years but you're not that old.
We are forced to live insecurely, in interesting times.
Buy peanut butter with your last food credits and bring it to OCCUPY.
I am a traditional commercial banker specializing in small manufacturing businesses and your guest Brad Close is not exaggerating small business' plight of finding semi-skilled and skilled- workers because of the unemployment benefits. The companies I work with have in fact had trouble filling some full time jobs with benefits in the wage range of $18-$25 per hour because the applicants have said that they will be back when their unemployment benefits run out. These applicants are semi-skilled and skilled and they tell us they are taking all cash side jobs and unemployment, and will be back when that situation is no longer available. I am very sorry that so many of your listeners are hostile to this truth- but it is a real problem in this particular sector. I didn't think Mr. Close was trying to demonize all those who receive unemployment benefits- but he is representing a group that does have a real problem.
Two comments:
1. If I am offered a job paying less than my unemployment benefits and/or paying less than I made previously, I will think twice about accepting it immediately. This has happened to me, and explains the irresistible attraction for some businesses to hire illegal aliens because they will work for lower wages.
2. This was touched on previously, but here's a specific question -- at the end of a year, what is the percentage of jobs created by big and small business after the failed businesses (and disappeared jobs) have been taken into account.