Friday News Roundup - Hour 2
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Gadhafi called on Libyans to “march in the millions to Tripoli” and “drive away rats.” Last night, rebels took control of a key neighborhood in the capital. While NATO has set its sights on Gadhafi’s hometown of Sirte. In Syria, masked gunmen severely beat the country’s best known cartoonist. He had been critical of President Assad. Iran sentenced two American hikers to eight years in prison. They were charged with illegally entering the country and spying. And Vice President Biden traveled to China and Mongolia. A panel of journalists joins Diane for analysis of the week's top international news stories.
Guests
Abderrahim Foukara
Washington bureau chief of Al Jazeera Arabic.
Susan Glasser
editor-in-chief, Foreign Policy.
Mark Landler
White House correspondent, The New York Times.
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Atlantic monthly's/ New America Foundations Steve Clemons was on Rachel Maddows several evenings ago he mentioned how Al Qeada is allegedly involved with the Libyan Rebels.
This week former US Ambassador Marc Ginsberg was on C Spans Washington Journal discussing LIbya. He mentioned that many are concerned about Libyan weapons falling into Al Qeada's hands. If it is true that Al Qeada is involved with the Libyan rebels are those weapons all ready in Al Qeada's hands?
What do you know about this?
Very Confusing
Two really important post up over at Race for Iran and
CHALLENGING CONVENTIONAL WISDOM ON AL-QAIDA: IS IT STRONGER TODAY THAN WHEN IT FIRST DECLARED WAR AGAINST AMERICA…AND, IF SO, WHY?
“To our minds, the most important thing that Americans could do would be to reflect, seriously and honestly, about the war on terror unleashed in response to the 9/11 attacks—to reflect on what actually prompted the attacks, and whether the ways in which the United States responded have actually made it more secure. To stimulate this kind of reflection, we recommend reading and pondering an article, see here, published by Michael Scheuer—former head of the CIA’s bin Ladin “unit” turned trenchant critic of America’s counter-terrorism strategy and Middle East policy—earlier this week in The National Interest .:
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The Zawahiri Era
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August 24, 2011
Michael Scheuer [2]
“Since 2001, ten thousand U.S. citizens have died, more than thirty thousand have been wounded or maimed, two U.S. field armies are quitting wars without winning, and the public purse will incur costs estimated at up to $4 trillion when all is said and done. Each component of this laundry list of failures is in one way or another attributable to bin Laden. No individual, moreover, has had a greater negative impact on Americans in the last fifty years.
More from Micheal Scheuer's article
From the way U.S. citizens look at their government (can it protect us?), immigrants (what are they really up to in that garage?) or the police (how secure are our civil liberties?), the assumptions of everyday life have been changed for the worse by bin Laden’s words and deeds. At the least Americans will be able to welcome the absence of a man who for fifteen years bombed their cities, ships and embassies; killed their soldier-children; helped ruin their economy; and consistently made asses out of their presidents and generals. But while killing bin Laden is a significant achievement for the military and the CIA (and for the U.S. public), those levelheaded folks will take it for what it is, a major tactical victory that will only lead to a strategic defeat of the enemy should extreme—and highly unlikely—good fortune prevail.”
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You can place your bets that in MSMBC’s upcoming special “Day of Destruction. Decade of War” hosted by Rachel Maddow and Richard Engel that the critical issues that former head of the Cia’s Bin Laden unit Micheal Scheuer will not be reported about or even mentioned.
Al Qeada was not in Iraq before the US invasion of Iraq. After they were.
Please ask this question.
Are Al Qeada members woven in with the LIbyan rebels. Atlantic Montly's Steve Clemons whispered about this on the Rachel Maddow show this week. Others have indicated this. There are also many reports about Libyan weapons that belonged to Qaddafi forces being unaccounted for. Tens of thousands of weapons.
Where are these weapons and is there a strong possibility that these weapons have all ready made it into Al Qeada's hands.
Really important piece up at Race for Iran
CHALLENGING CONVENTIONAL WISDOM ON AL-QAIDA: IS IT STRONGER TODAY THAN WHEN IT FIRST DECLARED WAR AGAINST AMERICA…AND, IF SO, WHY?
And by former head of the CIA's Bin Laden unit Micheal Scheuer
The Zawahiri Era
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August 24, 2011
Michael Scheuer [2]
I'm sick of these Libyan rebels. They are not saints. Now they are summarily executing African immigrants who they accuse of being Gaddafi loyalists.
They're killing the blacks today. They'll be killing each other tomorrow. Benjamin Barber called it from the beginning. Libya will descend into chaos and so will the entire Jasmine Revolution.
Soon we will see multiple "Iraqs"....
I find it very interesting that a couple of weeks after the high level "defector" was killed, the previously floundering rebels are in Tripoli.
ok now you have covered gold mask, Condi "mushroom cloud" photo albums found in Qaddafi's compound. Where are those unaccounted for weapons?
Diane of your guest said many things have been found in Qaddafi's compound. Will your guest be talking about the hundreds of thousands of Libyan weapons that are unaccounted for? Atlantic Monthly's Steve Clemons as well as others have inferred that Al Qeada members were allegedly working within the Libyan rebels. Could these unaccounted Libyan weapons all ready be in the hands of Al Qeada?
Don't kid yourself Mike Sergeant. SAS, French Commandos, and probably JSOC are helping the rebels. NATO got tired of waiting. Some countries (ie Norway) began to pull out...
Mr. Foukara just mentioned that people have been protesting in Syria for six months. You folks may not have noticed Palestinians have been protesting in the occupied West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem for decades. Not that the Diane Rehm show and the rest of the MSM shines any lights on this
The US MSM does not need Syria's Assad to bring attention to Iran. The MSM's focus went immidiately to Iran soon after the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. Hell we started hearing one unsubstantiated claim about Iran repeated on NPR's Talk of the Nation. Host Neil Conan allowed John Bolton to repeat one unsubstantiated claims about Iran numerous times. Diane Rehm has allowed Reuel Marc Gerecht and others to repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran. NPR's Fresh Air's host not only allows guest to repeat the debunked "Iran wants to wipe Israel off the Map" and calls Iran's nuclear program a "nuclear weapons program" Terri Gross repeats these claims herself. So does MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Face the Nation (Bob Schiefer allowed Obama to repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran during the 2008 campaign, George Stephanpoulous allowed Clinton and McCain to repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran), former host Tim Russert let Cheney do this. Christiane Amanpour allows guest to do this. And there are more
ONE WOULD THINK THAT AFTER THE FAILURE OF MANY MSM OUTLETS TO CHALLENGE THE FALSE WMD INTELLIGENCE THAT THESE HOST OF PROGRAMS COULD AT THE VERY LEAST ASK WHAT THE SOURCES ARE. AND ASK FOR VERIFIABLE PROOF OF THESE OFTEN REPEATED CLAIMS ABOUT IRAN
The world argues about perception.
The Chinese investment in the US is driven by their need to funel back the money spent purchasing their exports in order to continue the cycle of buying which is supported by the manipulation of currencies allowing the YUAN to be undervalued in contrast to China's trading partners. The US is their largest trading partner, hence, their high degree of Treasuries held to faciltate said exports. Not a investment done selflessly.
kathleen wrote:
"the debunked "Iran wants to wipe Israel off the Map""
Ahmadinejad apologists not withstanding ...
The Washington Post
October 28, 2005
"Ahmadinejad made his remarks in a speech Wednesday to 4,000 students attending a conference called "The World Without Zionism." He was quoting the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, who led the 1979 Islamic revolution that established Iran's theocratic government and made fierce opposition to Israel a matter of political orthodoxy.
Ahmadinejad also called the 1948 establishment of Israel, on territory also claimed by Palestinians, the fall of "the last trench of Islam."
Virulent anti-Israel sentiment remains strong in the hard-line circles from which Ahmadinejad emerged to win the presidential election in June. "Israel Should Be Wiped Off the Map" was the slogan draped on a Shahab-3 ballistic missile during a military parade in Tehran a month ago. Six of the missiles, which, with a 1,250 mile range, could reach Israel, were the high point of the parade. "We Will Trample America Under Our Feet," read another banner. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/27/AR200510...
Next.
"Mike Sergeant wrote:
I find it very interesting that a couple of weeks after the high level "defector" was killed, the previously floundering rebels are in Tripoli.
August 26, 2011 - 11:16 am"
Right, that and the humongous escalation of NATO bombing raids that flattened large parts of Tripoli.
I wonder why our illustrious Military Advisors or Doctors sans Frontiers have not told the glorious Green Beret / School of the Americas trained Benghazi Freedom fighters, who have fired 1,000,000 times more small arms, AA, RPG etc into the air than at their Enemy, that the stuff kills and maims Civilians, Pets and Livestock when it comes down (as, like all things that go up, they must do).
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
I wanted to share this with your guests and listeners. I am not on Facebook or tweet or even texting. I am just an overeducated, unemployed, old woman…*sigh!*
BREAKING NEWS:
President Obama has just confirmed that the DC earthquake occurred on a rare and obscure fault-line, apparently known as "Bush's Fault".
Obama also announced that the Secret Service and Maxine Waters continue investigation of the quake's suspicious ties to the Tea Party.
Conservatives, however, have proven that it was caused by the founding fathers rolling over in their graves.
tabby4 wrote:
"BREAKING NEWS"
Well, said tabby4. I heard the first one this way:
Following the 5.8 VA earthquake yesterday, the U.S. Geological Survey announced that the fault line involved was heretofore undiscovered. They have now verified that this is, in fact, a new fault line and, because of its proximity to Washington DC, have named it the "Bush Fault". Therefore, yesterday's disaster can be said by the administration to be "Bush's Fault".
Today, an even larger earthquake (6.0) has struck Peru. The same agency has announced that it is likely that yesterday's VA quake has induced instability in the South American tectonic plates resulting in today's Peruvian quake, making its cause also "Bush's Fault".
Not exactly on Maxine Waters, but on Frederica Wilson, "Let us all remember who the real enemy is. The real enemy is the Tea Party". When I heard that, I thought, You are so right, Frederica. You are so right. And that is why the left is fighting the Tea Party for all it's worth. We've got your liberal democratic socialist agenda in our sights* and your days are numbered*.
Notes:
* "in our sights" is intended solely as a figure of speech and is not intended to incite or encourage violence on anyones' part.
** "your days are numbered" is intended solely as a figure of speech meaning that there will soon be a time when that agenda is no longer at play in this country, and is not intended as a threat, implied threat, or any sort of threat to anyone's person or personal safety.
Now, don't you see how silly the "language police" are!
"kathleen wrote:
The US MSM does not need Syria's Assad to bring attention to Iran. The MSM's focus went immidiately to Iran soon after the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. Hell we started hearing one unsubstantiated claim about Iran repeated on NPR's Talk of the Nation. Host Neil Conan allowed John Bolton to repeat one unsubstantiated claims about Iran numerous times. Diane Rehm has allowed Reuel Marc Gerecht and others to repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran. NPR's Fresh Air's host not only allows guest to repeat the debunked "Iran wants to wipe Israel off the Map" and calls Iran's nuclear program a "nuclear weapons program" Terri Gross repeats these claims herself. So does MSNBC's Rachel Maddow.
Face the Nation (Bob Schiefer allowed Obama to repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran during the 2008 campaign, George Stephanpoulous allowed Clinton and McCain to repeat unsubstantiated claims about Iran), former host Tim Russert let Cheney do this. Christiane Amanpour allows guest to do this. And there are more ...
August 26, 2011 - 11:40 am"
Recently, on On The Media Comments, I criticized CBS for making Post Rather 60 Minutes into a piece of bigoted Right-Wing, Jewish, anti-Muslin S__t.
The Jewish Censor / Enforcer of OTM deleted several of my comments not because I complained about the disgracefully biased 60 Minutes piece on the Arafat and the PLO's handling of Money (among others), but because I called the Interviewess, the Wild Haired One. He even sent me a personal EMail by way of explanation.
I wanted to reply and explain about the 60 Minutes interview with President Ahmadinejad in which they deliberately declined to ask him about the alleged Anti-Israel quotes, but I can't find the EMail.
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com
"kathleen wrote:
Atlantic monthly's/ New America Foundations Steve Clemons was on Rachel Maddows several evenings ago he mentioned how Al Qeada is allegedly involved with the Libyan Rebels.
This week former US Ambassador Marc Ginsberg was on C Spans Washington Journal discussing LIbya. He mentioned that many are concerned about Libyan weapons falling into Al Qeada's hands. If it is true that Al Qeada is involved with the Libyan rebels are those weapons all ready in Al Qeada's hands?
What do you know about this?
Very Confusing
August 26, 2011 - 10:44 am"
Remember when the Ayatollah thanked the Iranian Revolutionaries for their help, then said,"OK now, it's time to turn in your weapons"?
Our brilliant CIA/Mossad/FBI/NeoCon/GOP/Jew Media/Military/NRA Kabal is now concerned about what will become of all the (no doubt US supplied) Shoulder-Launched AA Missiles floating around Libya.
Afghanistan Redux!
Monte Haun mchaun@hotmail.com