Reaction to Death of Osama bin Laden
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2011-05-02/reaction-death-osama-bin-laden
For many Americans, he had become the epitome of evil. Now, 10 years after the 9-11 attacks, U.S. forces finally found al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan - and killed him in a firefight. As the news spread last night, there were chants of "U.S.A." at ballgames and cheers from a youthful crowd that gathered at the White House. But U.S. officials and experts on terrorism warn that the threat Bin Laden did so much to create won't end with his violent demise. In this hour, we'll discuss why it took so long to find Bin Laden, how the operation finally succeeded - and what's ahead in the battle against terrorism.
Guests
John McLaughlin
former acting director of the CIA and now senior fellow at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.
Yochi Dreazen
senior national security correspondent, National Journal magazine.
Paul Pillar
director, graduate studies at the Center for Peace and Security Studies at Georgetown University and a former CIA National Intelligence officer
Ahmed Rashid
Pakistani journalist and author. A second edition of his book "Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia " has just been published. His other books include “Descent into Chaos” and “Jihad.”
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Obama declared war on us. He attacked us. We have simply defended ourselves. You are lucky. You were never in the wrong place, at the wrong time. But Obama's plots, and those of other extremists, would have killed you without a thought.
I really am not a sadist. And I don't think you are a goldfish in a tank along with millions of others. You have the right to make choices, and there are avenues so you can lead a better life. A great life? Be worth a million? I don't know. There are opportunities, not guarantees.
As for characterizing our military as a bunch of poor people, it's a lot more complicated than that. The officer corp is well educated and has chosen that career, not fallen into it. I worked with them for 20 years and I cannot overstate their professionalism.
Yes, without a draft, most of our enlisted troops come from settings and economic circumstances that are not terrific. But they too have made a choice, and they too are professional and dedicated. For them, the military is a step up, and for most of them that definitely proves true.
You say that in our society, people took opportunity away from other and now are liable for their needs. I guess that why we have tax proposals to "go after" all those rich people. Half the people in this country pay no income tax, just like GE. The top 10% of earners pay 80+% of the income taxes. I think that amounts to giving opportunity to a lot of people. People who now feel entitled to what ever they want, without doing the struggling that is absolutely necessary.
The free ride is ending. The bills must be paid. And our enemies must talk to us or face Bin Laden endings.
bribribri wrote:
"Obama declared war on us. "
I thought this was just a typo the first time you did it ... now I'm beginning to wonder ... did you mean Osama? Would this be called "Freudian slip"?
Oh, God. My mistake. My therapist is going to take this very seriously. I apologize.
Too much Tea Party.
News events like this get beaten into the ground within a couple hours. I really do not see the point of asking the same questions 500 different ways for days on end. The media to make up for their empty reporting starts dragging in the families of the murdered for interviews, disgusting.
I knew you meant Osama. Osama/Obama what's the dif? We all believe what we're told. Feel free to use the edit button. That's why Diane put it there.
I've made some horribly embarrassing mistakes myself. I voted for Obama in 2008. I voted in 2008. I believed voting meant something. I believed my vote would be counted. I carried a pocket Constitution like my friend Dennis Kucinich believing it could protect our rights. I witnessed 9/11 in Manhattan firsthand and believed it was a terrorist attack at first. I read everything I could lay my hands on about it, listened to many presentations, believing the real perpetrators would be found out. I thought I made money by working smart, but I discovered it was all insider information and networking made me wealthy. I used my real identity on the Internet and never encrypted or proxied for years. I remained living too long in the USA until my passport was revoked. I posted @ On Point and Truthdig never suspecting censorship.
Only Diane has afforded me one last little cobble to perch upon. I was right to believe in Diane.
A guest earlier mentioned, approximately, that to end terrorism, the leadership must be destroyed, no access to safe haven, and conditions favorable to terrorism must be reduced. What about solving the conflict? Putting all cards on the table, including 1916, 1945, 1990, 9/11, an airbase and oil pipeline, a workable plan for Afghanistan that includes Taliban? Will it take another decade of empire-wrecking GWOT before we figure out that 'solve conflict' and 'fight war' are entirely different things?
conflic... wrote:
"What about solving the conflict? Putting all cards on the table...."
Yeah, Great Idea! What we need is like, what you might call, a "new world order", you know, with perhaps a "board of directors" and everyone else "citizens of the world". One people, one currency, one government. When one group gets upset or protests, we can bring the hammer down on them, 'til everybody does what the government says to do.
THAT should do it!
The preceding was another use of the literary device of "sarcasm".
My response to Grady Lee Howard's post about Condoleeza Rice - stating the actual facts of the case and debunking the "truthers" seems to have been removed.
LET THE CENSORSHIP BEGIN!!!
All the Rice rebuttal is still there on page #1, not one grain is missing. DRShow is the most tolerant on the Web. A sophisticated moderator understands that not everyone has the same pundit style of expression. "A be-bop poet can't be held to the same standard as an academic contender."
Wasn't Sandy Berger the joker who stuffed classified material in his pants? I'll have to remember to quote that unimpeachable authority later. Because the Bush family and the bin Ladens moved in the same elite Saudi circles certain suspicions arise that have never been addressed. In addition, bin Laden International Construction took part in building the WTC. Paul Laffoley testifies at RadiOrbit that explosives were incorporated into the building frames for later implosions at obsolescence. Here lies a good explanation for the pancaking of Building #7. The complex was hard to lease and certainly past its prime. Enabling a few hijackers via Pakistani payrolls seems well within domestic intelligence capabilities.
Birthers are racist and serve fascist Oligarchs. While fascist Oligarchs may stand poised to take advantage of 9/11 Truth revelations the suspicions and the science did not originate with them, but with a variety of disillusioned doubters. Because OBL was a CIA asset against the Russians and on intelligence payroll it is reasonable to suspect hidden relations and arrangements. Whomever was killed, if anyone was, it would serve corporate favorite Obama's re-election bid at this point. So many lies have come from Af/Pak that no one can be sure anymore. I can see why Petraeus settled for CIA considering the cut and dried electoral process. Daddy Bush used the same stepping stone.
Grady Lee Howard wrote:
"DRShow is the most tolerant on the Web".
I agree that's why it surprised me - I must have checked three different times and didn't see it ... so, mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
"Birthers are racist "
That is a strong charge. Do you have any evidence for it? BTW, "the Daily Kos says they are" would not be considered evidence.
"it would serve corporate favorite Obama's re-election bid at this point"
At this point, but not 18 months from now. "Daddy" Bush had the same benefit after Kuwait and was flying high in the polls. That quickly fades when people are faced with devastating economic realities at home. George H.W. Bush was not re-elected, the guy whose tag-line was "it's the economy, stupid" was.
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You're right..I missed it.
Sorry.