Vermont Debates Universal Health Care
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2011-04-27/vermont-debates-universal-health-care
Vermont lawmakers have advanced a bill that would make it the first state to adopt universal health care. The governor, Peter Shumlin, has made this a key part of his agenda. Diane and her guests, including the governor, discuss the ongoing debate over strategies to expand health care access and reduce costs.
Guests
Julie Rovner
health policy correspondent for NPR, author of "Health Care Policy and Politics A-Z," and contributing editor for National Journal Daily.
Governor Peter Shumlin
Vermont's Democratic governor, leading efforts to create a single-payer health care system in the state.
Dr. Robert Zarr
pediatrician at the Unity Health Care, Inc., in Washington, DC, co-chair of the DC chapter of Physicians for a National Health Program, and adjunct professor at Children’s National Medical Center, George Washington University, and Georgetown University.
Michael Cannon
director of health policy studies, Cato Institute
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A few exceptions do, because they can afford it; just like Americans who can pay top dollar independently to queue-jump ahead of everyone else. I cross the border several times year and don’t recall seeing sick Canadians flocking into the US.
You need to understand that Canadians overwhelmingly support their health system while acknowledging its flaws. As one of the panelists observed, EVERY system has a form of rationing. In the US, rationing is done by pricing people out of the system or denying insurance coverage because of preexisting conditions. In the US, the poor and uninsured are forced to seek treatment at emergency rooms because they can't be turned away from there. If they can't pay, their costs are inequitably borne by other patients in the system, instead of being spread over everyone in the population. In Canada, people can get treated free anywhere, no questions asked, no fear of bankruptcy. The price for this is sometimes having to wait for elective surgery, which isn’t rare in the US, either.
I would challenge anyone who defends the US “system” as the more moral and decent.
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The difference between "rationing" under a privately owned health care system is that the individual is free to seek out other health insurance companies for coverage. Under a single payer system, if the government decides your service or procedure will be denied, there's nowhere else to go.
Beemnseven- You really do not understand the US system. Don't worry, most of us Americans do not.
first, most private insurance is provided through employers, so where is your choice if the plan the employer has denies coverage for something?
second, the point when rationing impacts a person is when they are also uninsurable and cannot switch insurance companies, and as a matter of fact will eventually be dropped by their own insurance.
Insurance companies do not like sick people. which is why the Government has to provide insurance for over 65. And the laws back insurance companies and their tactics of dropping sick people. ( I am one of those uninsurable ).
Most people do not realize that once you get seriously sick and can no longer work that it is the medical bills that destroy you. You can only COBRA so long, and believe me they will make it as hard as possible to keep it during the COBRA period.
Once COBRA is over you no longer will ever get private insurance. And getting on Medicare when you are under 65 is a long process which requires getting SSDI first. You will die or go broke waiting for it. Eventually you will become medically poor enough to get medicaid, but your life will be ruined by our great health care system by then.
Regarding long waits in Canada...it's my experience that there are long waits in the U.S. too. The soonest appointment my partner could get to have a suspicious mole (which turned out to be malignant melanoma) looked at was three months. That was after calling around to every available dermatologist in the Baltimore Metro area.
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How do ya’ll plan to pay for this “Universal Healthcare”??? Taxes? true, because half of you probably don’t even pay income tax… the government has NO $$$$$$$$$$
We are 15 TRILLION dollars in debt, people. there is NO money to support all the Technology, all the Medication, all the doctors, and the hospitals for everyone in all America to have free health care…. Free, has a price… and we have no money to buy it....