Friday News Roundup - Hour 2

Friday News Roundup - Hour 2

The U.S. sends CIA operatives into Libya for intelligence gathering. Syria's president blames unrest on foreign plots. And high radiation levels are found in seawater near Japanese nuclear plants.

The U.S. sends CIA operatives into Libya for intelligence gathering. Syria's president blames unrest on foreign plots. And high radiation levels are found in seawater near Japanese nuclear plants. A panel of journalists joins Diane for analysis of the week's top international news stories.

Guests

David Ignatius

columnist, The Washington Post; co-moderator of "PostGlobal" on washingtonpost.com.

James Kitfield

senior correspondent, National Journal magazine.

David Sanger

chief Washington correspondent for The New York Times.

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Obama's playing golf:
Iraq and Libya are sand traps.
Af/Pak is the rough.
Living waged jobs are the fairway.
Energy is the green.
And the budget is the hole.

Ouestion: Why don't billionaires and transnationals have any skin in the game? Do you have to always let the bosses win?

Obama better fish his balls out the water hazard because us caddies ain't gonna buy him a new set.

April 1, 2011 - 11:21 am

the 1/2 life of Cesium is 24000 years.

April 1, 2011 - 11:37 am

What about all the Nazis the U.S. cut deals with, gave safe haven to, and protected from prosecution so that the U.S. could build their nuclear bombs which they then dropped on Japanese cities and surprise, surprise actually totes as a green source of electricity.

April 1, 2011 - 11:48 am

hardouf:
Operation Paperclip involved social control and aerospace experts as well as physicists.
There are recycled plutonium rods at Fukishima too. It was dispersed in hydrogen explosions and has also leaked into the water table. Plutonium has a suprahuman half-life too. To excrete one half of breathed or ingested plutonium takes the human body 200 years. It emits alpha, beta and gamma. So recycling warheads and old rods might not be so smart, especially if you suffer a meltdown.

April 1, 2011 - 11:55 am

Diane makes up a quote about Sen. McCain comparing Libya to Vietnam and when her panel says they have never heard that, she doesn't admit to having her facts wrong, again. Who could forget the show where Diane was emphatic that the FDA approved Thalidomide even when confronted with evidence to the contrary. Is Diane auditioning for a job at MSNBC?

April 1, 2011 - 12:04 pm

hardouf wrote:
"What about all the Nazis the U.S. cut deals with, gave safe haven to, and protected from prosecution so that the U.S. could build their nuclear bombs which they then dropped on Japanese cities.."

What? While there were Communist spies working inside The Manhattan Project, the U.S. did not employ Nazis. Germany surrendered in May, 1945. The A-Bombs dropped on Japan in August, 1945. While former Nazi scientists worked on the U.S. space/rocket program, they had zero to do with developing the nuclear weapons used on Japan that finally forced them to surrender unconditionally.

April 1, 2011 - 12:11 pm

cicero: No, she's just acting Fox-y.

April 1, 2011 - 1:54 pm

cicero: You forget the subsequent Hydrogen Bomb race.
If Russia was an Allied nation, I'm sure their affiliates were involved in the Manhattan Project. Together they defeated the Nazis, but judging from the convergence of the American and Chinese political economies, fascism triumphed, and in Russia too with American assistance.

I wonder why you'd take that identity since your Roman namesake was kind of a Machevellian Propagandist in behalf of the wealthy class.

April 1, 2011 - 2:02 pm

hardouf on April 1, 2011 @ 11:48 am wrote: “What about all the Nazis the U.S. cut deals with, gave safe haven to, and protected from prosecution so that the U.S. could build their nuclear bombs which they then dropped on Japanese cities . . . .”

Uh, bud, there were no Nazis involved in the Manhattan Project, which developed the bomb. We were still at war with Germany when the thing was built.

You are confusing what happened after the war, when men like Werner Von Braun came here and worked on our space program at NASA.

(I’m not saying he faced prosecution. I’m just pointing out your historical mistakes.)

April 1, 2011 - 3:11 pm

cicero on April 1, 2011 @ 12:04 pm wrote: “Who could forget the show where Diane was emphatic that the FDA approved Thalidomide even when confronted with evidence to the contrary.”

I didn’t hear that show so this is pure speculation: Is it possible she (or you) are merely confused. Perhaps she was talking about the FDA’s approval of thalidomide for the treatment of lesions associated with Erythema Nodosum Leprosum (ENL) - on July 16, 1998 (according to Wikipedia), not approval back in the 60’s? (There have been other limited approvals for treatment of disease since then.)

Of course what you, and other “government is always the problem” Republi-Cons are ignoring is the fact that the U.S. was spared a disaster as great as other countries precisely because the “big government” FDA refused to approve the drug.

(Oh, and this happened during the JFK administration. One of those nasty liberal Democrats Republi-Cons think are the bane of the nation.)

April 1, 2011 - 3:17 pm

Grady Lee Howard on April 1, 2011 @ 2:02 pm wrote: “cicero: You forget the subsequent Hydrogen Bomb race. If Russia was an Allied nation, I'm sure their affiliates were involved in the Manhattan Project.”

On this one Cicero and I are in agreement. (Let’s try not to make it a habit.) If there were any “Russian agents” in the Manhattan project, they were spies, not invited representatives of an ally. The U.S. did all it could to keep the project secret from the Russians, until the time came to use the bomb.

April 1, 2011 - 3:21 pm

Grady Lee Howard wrote:
"cicero: You forget the subsequent Hydrogen Bomb race.
If Russia was an Allied nation, I'm sure their affiliates were involved in the Manhattan Project."

Even though the Soviet Union was an ally of the U.S. after Germany invaded Russia in 1941, FDR was gnomic enough to exclude them from the joint British/U.S. Manhattan Project. The problem with allowing British scientists in the Project is that the British vouched for Klaus Fuchs, who was a Soviet spy.

Stalin was not supposed to know about the A-Bomb. When President Truman told him about it at the Potsdam Conference, Stalin just shrugged.

Since the U.S. did not drop any H-Bombs on Japan, harddouf's comment about "Nazis building the U.S. nuclear bombs which they dropped on Japan," is utterly false.

April 1, 2011 - 8:41 pm

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
"I didn’t hear that show so this is pure speculation: Is it possible she (or you) are merely confused. Perhaps she was talking about the FDA’s approval of thalidomide for the treatment of lesions associated with Erythema Nodosum Leprosum (ENL) - on July 16, 1998 (according to Wikipedia), not approval back in the 60’s? (There have been other limited approvals for treatment of disease since then.)"

No confusion on my part at all. Rehm was talking to Dr. Margaret Hamburg Commission of the Food and Drug Administration about thalidomide in 1960. Rehm tried to convince Dr. Hamburg that the FDA approved thalidomide despite the warnings from the U.K. doctor back in the late 1950's. The point is that Rehm's comprehension of historical truths is sketchy at best. That she made up the Sen. McCain quote is evidence that her ignorance is not limited to the historical record of yesteryear, but of yesterday as well.

September 28, 2009
26:40 into show
http://thedianerehmshow.org/audio-player?nid=733

April 1, 2011 - 9:36 pm

I did not enjoy the second hour of today's show. As The Common Ills pointed out this evening, this was the tenth Friday in a row that the program ignored the Iraq War. I find that very disappointing and, honestly, shameful.
I also don't enjoy the fact that the program can't manage to provide an equal number of men and women as guests.
I did a study with two other women of Fresh Air in 2010. For all of 2010, women made up only 18.2% of Terry Gross' guests.
I will now be tracking The Diane Rehm Show at my blog. I find gender bias in all of NPR's programming and find it amazing since if the same gender bias were applied to hosts of shows, there would be a Don Rhem Show and Tommy Gross would be hosting Fresh Air. It's past time the female hosts of NPR made a real effort to book women.
And for anyone who has forgotten, 18.2% is a lower percentage than what Alicia Shephard found in her study of Morning Edition and All Things Considered.

April 1, 2011 - 10:45 pm

Ann Wilson wrote:
"I also don't enjoy the fact that the program can't manage to provide an equal number of men and women as guests. It's past time the female hosts of NPR made a real effort to book women."

How about NPR providing an equal amount of conservative guests to liberal guests? How about NPR having just one show hosted by a male or female conservative?

Perhaps you should be watching FOX News if you wish to see women more fairly represented in a news and entertainmnet media outlet.

Shannon Bream
Martha McCallum
Julie Banderas
Kirsten Powers
Juliet Huddy
Alisyn Camerota
Lis Wiehl
Dagan McDowell
Jane Skinner
Gretchen Carlson
Jill Dobson
Laura Ingraham
Laurie Dhue
Harris Faulkner
Uma Pemmaraju
Monica Crowley
Megyn Kelly
Paige Hopkins
Molly Henneberg
Margaret Hoover
Pattie Ann Browne
Kimberly Guilfoyle
Lauren Green
Jamie Colby
Heather Nauert
Jennifer Griffin
Ainsley Earhardt

April 2, 2011 - 1:11 pm

I agree with Ann Wilson about Iraq. At Stars and Stripes today Megan McCloskey points out, "Iraq was once the dominant story on any given front page and nightly newscast. Today, attention has dropped to less than 1 percent of the daily news, according to the Pew Research Center." Ten weeks and no Iraq on the Friday international hour?
Yeah, I find that offensive but maybe because I'm one of the people who deployed there?
At any rate, thank you to Ms. Wilson for raising the very important issue. And I also agree that there could be more balance on the Friday news roundups in terms of gender.

April 4, 2011 - 6:47 pm

Cicero on April 1, 2011 @ 8:41 pm wrote: “. . . FDR was gnomic enough. . . .
Since the U.S. did not drop any H-Bombs on Japan, harddouf's comment about ‘Nazis building the U.S. nuclear bombs which they dropped on Japan,’ is utterly false.”

Gnomic? Care to define the term.

Also, nuclear is the correct term for an atomic bomb, since it refers to any explosion produced by fission or fusion. That bomb is an example of a fission reaction. A hydrogen bomb is thus also a nuclear bomb, although a more specific term is thermonuclear.

But don’t worry, I won’t accuse you of writing something that “is utterly false”, just utterly mistaken.

P.S. - glad we're disagreeing again, although on a minor point.

April 8, 2011 - 12:43 am

cicero on April 1, 2011 @ 9:36 pm wrote: “http://thedianerehmshow.org/audio-player?nid=733”

Thanks for the link!

As for Diane Rehms’ mistake, well that’s one reason none of us should take at face value what any member of the media (right, left, or center) has to say.

Fact check.

Fact check.

FACT CHECK

FACT CHECK!

In her defense, however, she probably was confused because while Thalidomide was not approved by the FDA (indeed, it was an example of a “big government” agency interfering with the “free market”, and thereby limiting the damage that drug caused here), the drug was being used in clinical trials here, and that’s one reason there are American “Thalidomide babies”. She was probably thinking of that, and didn’t realize the FDA hadn’t given approval for general use.

April 8, 2011 - 1:00 am

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

"Also, nuclear is the correct term for an atomic bomb, since it refers to any explosion produced by fission or fusion."

Who said it was not? You are clearly confused, again. My comment was directed to hardouf, who said:

hardouf wrote:
"What about all the Nazis the U.S. cut deals with, gave safe haven to, and protected from prosecution so that the U.S. could build their nuclear bombs which they then dropped on Japanese cities."

The Nazis had nothing to do with the Manhatten Project. Ergo they had nothing to do with the creation of the A-Bombs dropped on Japan. hardouf is confusing the former Nazis scientists who may have worked on the H-Bomb. You are the only one stuck on the word nuclear.

April 22, 2011 - 3:54 pm

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
"FACT CHECK!
In her defense, however, she probably was confused..."

Have you emailed or called into the DR Show to admonish Diane to do just that?

At the same time you extol the virtues of fact checking, you excuse Diane for not doing just that. If you listened to the show I linked, it is painfully obvious that Diane could not be swayed from her bizarre position that the FDA approved Thalidomide. It appears Diane prefers confusion to clarity. Especially when the facts don't jibe with her political ideology.

April 22, 2011 - 4:00 pm

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