Friday News Roundup - Hour 2
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A defected Libyan soldier looks through the scope of a weapon on the outskirts of the eastern town of Brega, Libya, Thursday, March 3, 2011. Mutinous army units in pickup trucks armed with machine-guns and rocket launchers deployed around the strategic oil installation at Brega Thursday, securing the site after the opposition repelled an attempt by loyalists of Moammar Gadhafi to retake the port in rebel-held east Libya.
AP Photo/Tara Todras-Whitehill
Government aircraft in Libya attack anti-Gadhafi strongholds in the east. The Taliban assassinates Pakistan’s sole Christian cabinet member. And a gunman opens fire on a busload of U.S. airmen in Germany. A panel of journalists joins Diane for analysis of the week's top international news stories.
Guests
James Kitfield
senior correspondent, National Journal magazine.
Courtney Kube
national security producer for NBC News.
Tom Gjelten
correspondent, NPR, and author of "Bacardi and the Long Fight for Cuba: The Biography of a Cause."
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President Bush's Iraq war may have toppled Sadaam, but its military and political consequence is that we are now unable to topple Gadhafi.
This question is for Ms Kube: at some point, do you think that the Obama administration will try to take credit for the spread of leadership changes in the Middle East and northern Africa?
What about the role that Wikileaks played in the Tunisian uprising?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/01/wikileaks-reveal-what-made-t...
Julian Assange provided the spark that lit the tinder of oppression and rage.
I continue to hear about the war in the middle east, but hear very little about the war going on in mexico. This is a war taking place on our borders. I would think that it would be a top priority to contain this before it reaches farther across our borders. The time for sitting back and letting mexico take care of it's own problem is over.
Has Mark Zuckerberg changed the world in a way more significant and positive compared to the change achieved by politicians and governments?
The discussion of the CIA agent who killed two Pakistanis struck me as unbelievably naive.
Apply some basic reverse-think. If a Pakistani national killed two Americans in the process of spying in the US what would we do? Would we give him back? Never! We'd have him in Guantanomo, torturing the hell out of him.
President Obama would personally oversee the waterboarding, continuing the tradition of his predecessor. To expect the Pakistanis to act differently is a reminder of our how we see ourselves as the world's imperial bully, to whom everyone else must bow down.
Has Mr Kittfield recently taken a "Total Quality Management" refresher course? What's with the constant reference to "deliverables"?
The weapons, cell phones, ammunition, batteries, wires and other items were not found on the murdered Pakistanis. They were found in the car of Raymond Davis.
Where on the scooter would the Pakistanis keep a back seat full of weapons, phones, ammunition, batteries and wires?
You guests are either extremely ignorant or they are part of the corporate/government criminal cabal.
The weapons, cell phones, ammunition, batteries, wires, photos of madrasas and other items were not found on the murdered Pakistanis. They were found in the car of Raymond Davis.
It takes less than a minute to search for the information in the main stream Pakistani press to find this information.
Of course the U.S. government is not going to confirm this until they are forced to do so.
They are only interested in deceiving the public about their criminal activities in Pakistan, hiding what they are really doing, committing crimes against humanity.
Where, on the scooter, would the Pakistanis keep a car seat full of weapons, phones, ammunition, batteries and wires?
You guests are either extremely ignorant or they are part of the corporate/government criminal cabal.
If I had been allowed to have an exchange with your guests I could have refuted, with references, what they said in response to the information I gave over the phone.
It seems that callers are not given an opportunity to have such an exchange because the true nature of your guests would be subject to exposure.
This is the second time that I have been grouped in with "conspiracy theorists" by your guests, even though I did not present a conspiracy theory.
I presented the facts as they are documented in the Pakistani press where they quote the local police chief, the written report and several eye witnesses on the scene.
Further, in the 1963 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, Section II, Article 41, it clearly says, quote, "Consular officers shall not be liable to arrest or detention pending trial, except in the case of a grave crime and pursuant to a decision by the competent judicial authority."
That convention, having been ratified by the Senate and signed by the President, is U.S. Law.
You, Diane, need some researchers who will perform due diligence on these and other issues.
You should address these issues on the air on your next show.
Also, the list of persons with diplomatic immunity was presented to the Pakistani government two days prior to the shootings.
Raymond Davis was not on that list.
The U.S. then sent an new list that included Raymond Davis.
When Davis was arrested he had a normal passport, not a diplomatic one.
The U.S. sent a diplomatic passport to the police after Raymond Davis was arrested and asked the police to exchange it for the one Davis had when he was arrested.
These are facts reported in the Pakistani press, not conspiracy theories.
Why did you not present these facts to your listeners?
JonPaul on March 4, 2011 @ 4:41 pm wrote: “The weapons, cell phones, ammunition, batteries, wires and other items were not found on the murdered Pakistanis. . . . Where on the scooter would the Pakistanis keep a back seat full of weapons, phones, ammunition, batteries and wires?”
Sir, you need to get a hearing test - stat! The only one who’s mentioned “ammunition, batteries, wires and other items” is you! Here’s what Ms. Kube actually said (in response to your tirade):
“That report that they were ISI and that they were trailing him and he just got angry and it became a confrontation has been out there for several weeks. U.S. officials have denied that, flat out, left and right. They're saying there's no indication they were ISI, that they were in fact trying to rob him. They had other cell phones. They had weapons of some sort on them.”
Get it? The only thing these people are accused of carrying is “other cell phones” and “weapons of some sort on them”.
Just in case you’re unfamiliar with the state of modern technology, it is quite possible to carry both weapons and cell phones on one’s person, no back seat is needed!
Why should we take seriously someone (you) who gets so much dead wrong? Answer: we shouldn’t!
JonPaul on March 4, 2011 @ 5:14 pm wrote: “This is the second time that I have been grouped in with "conspiracy theorists" by your guests, even though I did not present a conspiracy theory.”
Incorrect, sir, what he actually said (responding to your citing of various reports in the local press) was : "Anyone who's spent time in that part of the region knows that there's conspiracy theories abound."
Get it? He didn't accuse you of being "a conspiracy theorist" (or ‘group you in with such people’). He simply stated that the area is rife with rumors of conspiracy theories, implying that the reports you put so much reliance on should not be taken at face value.
Apparently that fact means little to you, but it's just one more indication of why no one should take what you say at face value. (And I'd say we shouldn't take it at any value!)
Bort:
But Bush did help Gadhafi for a short time come back in the mold. In 2003 he agreed to stop the development of nuclear weapon for fear of what happened in Iraq would happen in Libya.
For your international segment, why not routinely have foreign journalists rather than Americans? I learn a great deal more from the occasional foreign journalist that isn't normally writing in the American media than from the journalists you usually have on.
Nadia Bilbassy and Abderrahim Foukara are very interesting and I look forward to hearing them more often, but surely they are not the only foreign journalists available to add depth to your program.
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