News Roundup - Hour 2
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2010-08-20/news-roundup-hour-2
President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden meet with the national security team on Iraq in the Situation Room of the White House, Aug. 11, 2010
Official White House photo by Pete Souza via Flickr
The last U.S. combat brigade leaves Iraq, the U.N. calls for more international aid for Pakistan's flood victims and China is projected to overtake Japan as the world's second-largest economy. A panel of journalists joins Diane for analysis of the week's top international news stories.
Guests
Thom Shanker
Pentagon correspondent for The New York Times.
Laura Rozen
foreign policy reporter, Politico.
David Ignatius
columnist, The Washington Post; co-moderator of "PostGlobal" on washingtonpost.com.
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Will Hamas be included in the Palestinian-Israels tlaks? How can lasting accord be achieved without addressing Hamas?
Even when China's economy grows to the size of our own, the quality of life of the average Chinese individual will still be lightyears behind. Moreover, a one-child policy has given China a demographic timebomb. Growth will not come as easily as it has.
Are american or multinational countries that have moved manufacturing to china or other countries suitably aware or prepared for the small - but nonzero - chance of major political instability. What if the millions of people living in china's villages lose faith in their government?
Iraq's dictator held the country together. The Saudi dictatorship holds that country together too. Even though Saudi Arabia has been shown to be the source of funding for radical anti-American "terrorist" organizations and ALL of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis - the Saudis are connected to the American shadow government and are untouchable. For example the Saudis were the only ones allowed to fly (except US military) in American air space on 9/11 when all commercial airlines were grounded. If we really believe in democracy we should be trying to overthrow that dictatorship.
The NY Times Manual of Style and Usage says it's "jury-rigged."
It is so frustrating listening to some of the comments on the show. When the representative from the Pentagon spoke of appreciation and a comment from a listener was read, I was shocked. My husband was in Baghdad at FOB SHIELD, training Iraqi police and military for over a year in 2008. It is not that they want a well written thank you note, but rather, the US Military would like the Iraqi police and military to be as willing to die for their own country, as our solidiers were to die for it. There government is so ill functioning that many of the military leaders/officers haven't ever been on a patrol or convoy. They soldiers and police are affraid because of the insurgents in the country. My husand's FOB was surrounded by local Iraqis and they thanked the soldiers and wished them health and happiness in their lives. The soliders and US Officers wish only the same for them, and hope that the Iraqi leadership can offer their own citizens the same safety our soliders have over the last three years.
It is so frustrating listening to some of the comments on the show. When the representative from the Pentagon spoke of appreciation and a comment from a listener was read, I was shocked. My husband was in Baghdad at FOB SHIELD, training Iraqi police and military for over a year in 2008. It is not that they want a well written thank you note, but rather, the US Military would like the Iraqi police and military to be as willing to die for their own country, as our solidiers were to die for it. There government is so ill functioning that many of the military leaders/officers haven't ever been on a patrol or convoy. They soldiers and police are affraid because of the insurgents in the country. My husand's FOB was surrounded by local Iraqis and they thanked the soldiers and wished them health and happiness in their lives. The soliders and US Officers wish only the same for them, and hope that the Iraqi leadership can offer their own citizens the same safety our soliders have over the last three years.
Re $$ aid to Pakistan, we were willing to invade Afghanistan (which has cost us billions) because they were unwilling to deliver Osama bin Laden.
Would it be wrong to offer the $150 million to Pakistan in exchange for bin Laden as that is supposedly where he is hiding? It seems re Pakistan we are willing to do anything to appease them while the rest of the world is so suspicious of their national corruption that they are less than willing to hand over aid.
Point of information. According to *Merriam-Webster's Third International Unabridged Dictionary*, "jury-rigged" is a legitimate term meaning "rigged for temporary service." The term "gerry-rigged" (as in "gerrymander") does *not* exist.
However, the variant "jerrymander" exists, as does "jerry-rigged." The latter term, however, is a relative neologism, dating in writing from 1959 (*M-W's 11th Collegiate Dictionary*), while "jury-rigged" dates to at least 1788, well before Elbridge Gerry's machinations as governor of Massachusetts (1810-11). I suspect that the "J" option arose on purely phonetic grounds, as the term gained currency among those unaware of its origin in a proper name (which, incidentally, is correctly pronounced with a hard "G," as in "get").
In short, both terms are legitimate, but "jury-rigged" is far and away the older term.
This is non-issue. To continue to hash up the initial reason why US forces went into Iraq is a moot point because we, as a country, have already admitted to our errors. To suggest that Iraqis were safer or the country was being "held together" by a dictator is ridiculous. It was being pushed down by a dictatorship. The Shia Muslims in Iraq were brutalized under the Sadams reign, as were the very small number of Christians in the area, and lets not forget the Kuwaitis.
I once made the same assertion as one of today's callers did about the difference between gerryrigged and juryrigged. As a retired copy editor, I am embarrassed to admit that I did so without having consulted an authoritative source. Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary lists neither "gerryrig" nor "gerryrigged" at all. The definition it gives for "juryrig" is "to erect, construct, or arrange in a makeshift fashion." The lesson I learned from that incident is not to make a claim for word use that cannot be backed up by an authoritative source. I can recommend that lesson to your caller.
Sheila Gorg
Around minute #12 of the show:
on the subject of masque in Manhattan ... are all muslim the same, there is good muslim and bad muslim .... bs, bs, bs....
Dianne: ... the muslims who bombed the World Trade Center....(referencing 9/11)
wow, misspoke or brain washed??????
Bet you anything.... 98% of the Americans subliminally think the same way.
The first day on 9/11 .... all airways said: Terrorists Bombed the Towers; Terrorist brought down the Towers with Bombs.
Second day: ... no, it does not make sense.... absolute cover up.
Did Dianne hear about WTC #7?????
http://www.AE911Truth.org
What if... what if ... what if.... what we were told about WTC #7 was not true.
Physics, science, architects, engineers, pilots .... they all say the same thing.... there is something wrong with the Official Story.
I have two great ideas:
a) why doesn't the jerks+supporters of Tel-Aviv buy the Property at a price which no one can say No
b) The Muslims will relocate that proposed project to Alaska, if we aggree to investigate what really really happened on 9/11.
Sarah Palin supported a second/independent/scientific investigation of the events of 9/11.
According to the script, Glenn Beck was supposed to destroy Sarah Palin, but he does not try that.
http://www.nyccan.org/index.php
Look at WTC #7 and figure out why we are so stupid and scared to ask questions.
The China with which we are the most familiar are Beijing and it's eastern cities. We see mostly how the country has transformed itself in the past thirty years into an economic power.
As for it's one child policy, the government saw a reason for wanting to limit family size-preventing starvation. Enforced abortions could never be supported by me. But the Chinese had their history of continually not being able to feed themselves. One hopes that education in birth control is given equal importance. The one child limit had to be modified in the countryside, where second children were allowed among the more traditional and less educated people.
However, when legal abortion became available many parents chose to terminate pregnancies of girls. There is, I think, a law in China now that prevents expectant parents from knowing the baby's sex. But, as in South Korea, the damage may have already been done to the future. When men drastically outnumber women, there will be a shortage of wives. That is the
real "time bomb".
Jury-rigged would refer to a jury that is prepared to deliver a verdict favorable to the person or persons who made sure who it's members would be. Am I correct? Although the term may have originated in or about 1788, such a tampering with justice probably goes back into the medieval era when juries began.
Gerrymandering is a term that began in a Congressional election in 1812 in Massachusetts, when Elbridge Gerry(pronounced Gary) was governor. A district was created that was shaped like a salamander. The reason was to ensure that the winner would be a Democrat-Republican, like Gerry. One politician put the the shape and the name together, pronouncing it with a soft g.
China: It is not as if the surplus of Chinese men could not marry women from another culture or country: mailorder brides to China. They are not a separate species. It is not also as if the Chinese oligarchy could not approve homosexual unions among the surplus men with full benefits and marriage status; then they could adopt parentless children from anywhere, even the USA. What does Confucius say?
cornelia! What a talker; what a thinker! Building #7 is only the tip of the iceberg this old tanker struck. I'd love to hear your other ideas. beretco.op@hotmail.com
When and where is this grudge match between Mama Grisly and the Crewcut Ladykiller ? Can you share the details with me?
Iraq: How much is the CIA paying the nonleaders there? Is it more than they're paying the Afghan puppets, or the Pakistani puppets? I love puppet shows. Imagine Obama as Pinocchio singing "I've got no strings.... there are no strings on me."