Marion Nestle & Malden Nesheim: "Feed Your Pet Right"
http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2010-05-12/marion-nestle-malden-nesheim-feed-your-pet-right
A behind-the-scenes look at America's seventeen-billion-dollar pet food industry and what you need to know about the nutritional needs of your dog or cat.
Guests
Marion Nestle
professor nutrition, food studies and public health at New York University
previous books include "Food Politics", "Safe Food", and "What to Eat"
Malden Nesheim
professor emeritus of nutritional sciences, Cornell University
former president, American Institute of Nutrition
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STOPPED FEEDING MY ITALIAN GREYHOUND DOG FOOD AND WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I FEED HIM WILD SALMON WITH SPINACH OR PEAS, OR MURREYS CHICKEN WITH THE SAME. FATTY TOMORS WERE DEVOLPING WITH DOG FOOD AND GETTING SMALLER WITH THIS DIET. HE HAS GAINNED ENERGY, LIKE A NEW DOG. WHAT A DIFFERENCE. WHEN HE WAS 0N DOG FOOD ONLY FED HIM ORANGIC FROM WHOLE FOODS AND NATURAL FOOD FROM DOG BAR BUT COOKING FOR HIM MADE ALL THE DIIFERENCE AND IT IS NOT HARD OR TIME CONSUMING. ALSO BAKE COOKIES FOR HIM. THANK YOU, PATRICE / MIAMI
I've been raising dogs for over 30 years. The authors' assertion that any food is acceptable is seriously flawed. Cheap food is cheap food. The authors' assumption of equality of ingredients, IMHO, is wrong.
Where is your research support? I have researched the area and the studies that I have discovered refutes your claims.
Hi, I make my cat's food. We have 6 and I've been making it for 6 years. It's a mix of raw and cooked turkey, steamed zucchini, spinach and carrots, The Missing Link supplement, bone meal powder and oilve oil. They love it and are healthy. They get 1/3 cup twice a day.
It is objectionable to me how much Americans spend on pet food and pet health products in this country. In some cases Americans spend more on their pets than they do their own family. To my mind these animals are a luxury and they are disposable. There is no way these animals should ever become more important than another human being.
Hi Diane, my dog is a bergamasco sheepdog. she is a VERY picky eater. She won't eat anything but dog food (occasionally), cat food, pizza, and butter. I, of course, don't intentionally feed her anything but dog food. The curious thing is that she'll only eat the cat food if it's 'on the sly.' I did an experiment once, and put the cat food in her dish, and she wouldn't have anything to do with it!! I think our beloved pooch is very smart and enjoys the challenge of trying to trick us!!
BTW, now that I'm grinding up chickens all the time, I have found that chickens from Whole Foods are not as uneconomical as one might think. They don't have big balls of fat in their bellies and are not packaged with a bunch of water. In contrast, the chickens that I get at my regular local grocery store are packaged with a lot of water and are very fatty. When all is said and done, the Whole Foods chicken price differential is not so great, you know that they have been fed vegetarian and organic, and you have the greater sense that they may not have suffered quite as much as the chickens from Tyson. I am unaffiliated with Whole Foods.
What nutritional training is taught in vet school?
As far as a raw diet is concerned...there is no need for supplementation if you're feeding whole raw food. Mother Nature knows best! If your animal receives food in the same way a 'prey' animal is built (80% or so meat, 10% or so offal, 10% or so bone) they are getting all the calcium / phosphorous they need. The ONLY supplementation necessary is perhaps salmon oil to make up for the lack of Omega 3's found in commercial meats.
Furthermore....WHY are you recommending grains (rice) of any sort...when cancer is the number one disease killer of dogs? Carbs simply feed the cancer...not the dog. The Merck veterinary manual stated until about 8 years ago that: "dogs need no carbohydrates of any kind."
When you compare processed food to whole raw food...there is simply no comparison. And...as far as salmonella is concerned....just as MUCH salmonella has been found in dog food as any raw food. With sanitary habits (I use hot water & vinegar), feeding raw is no more risky than feeding any meat we eat. My carnivores (cats & dogs) now have sparkling white shiny teeth. You know of the links of periodontal disease to other disease in humans...the same is true of our pets.
Sincerely,
Judy Rivers
www.usrmb.net
Does anyone know why Pork is not in petfood? You can find duck, venison, trout so it can't be cost.
Natural Balance- Organic is what I feed my all liver German Shorthaired Pointer. We eat organic and so does our dog. I will email you pic of him. We get so many compliments on his shiny coat that both my vet and his breeder asked what are we feeding him!:-) I get complimented all the time when I take him out for a walk or run.
A bit disappointing - would have liked to have heard more about the 4D types of meats included in commercial pet foot and the inclusion of euthanized animals including other pets.
......and.....now you've got me started ;-) while we love our pets dearly, by buying most types of pet foods available we are supporting factory/ intensively raised and inhumanely treated farm animals. There seems to be a mismatch between these animal lovers with their pets who are unwittingly and indirectly supporting cruel farming practices instead of creating a demand for pasture raised animals.
We feed our 60lb golden mix homemade diet
Use large stock pot full of water, add 6-8 frozen boneless chicken thighs, cook till done, remove and chop with immersion blender. Add 3 cans peas and 6 eggs to water, blend with immersion blender, add 8-10 cups oats or rice (or enough to fill pot and soak up water) and simmer till done, stir in chicken and missing link vitamin supplement.
This is very quick, easy and only uses 1 pot! This lasts about 1 week, about 3 cups 2x day
We hope this is giving proper balanced nutrition, feedback on this appreciated
She snacks on apples, carrots, too many carrots give her loose stools
A couple years ago I learned about what is really in commercially produced pet food and how inappropriate a lot of it is for my animals. Now I feed my dogs BARF diet - that means Biologically Appropriate RAW Food - they get raw chicken (or other meat) - WITH the BONES - daily - plus they also get raw veggies, digestive enzymes, and herbs from the Amazon rainforest on a regular basis. BARF diet is based on the thinking that if our pets were still in the wild and having to provide for themselves, that they would eat what comes natural to them. For dogs, think of a rabbit - raw meat, bones, and vegetable material and digestive enzymes in their intestines. For treats, I now bake them cookies made with whole wheat, oats, bacon grease (or other meat drippings) and milk - plus the herbs and enzymes. My pets are NOT obese, they are healthy and happy and I have no doubt that this diet is better for them than ANY commercially produced food - including "natural" food.
I've fed my dogs people food all their lives. My last dog lived to be eighteen and I had her put to sleep. I think she would have lived a couple more years if I wouldn't have done that. My current dog is four inches taller than her mother. I attribute that to better nutrition. I go to Taco Bell, my dog gets Taco Bell. I have hamberger helper for dinner, my dog has hamberger helper for dinner. These animals have lived on our garbage for the past 10,000 years. The dog food industry is a crock.
I live on a sailboat tied to a dock next to a bar/rest. on Roatan.
I am feeding 2 cats, & 2 small dogs on left over lobster & steak with good results. I do add a small amount of store bought food to make sure they get everything they need. Funny thing, they don't recognize hamburger as food, but they do like the special "smelly rice" I make them.
Like everyone says, they all prefer the other guys food dish.
It's a jungle out there.
I was extremely disappointed in todays show and would never buy the book. I am in the pet industry and there was so much more that should have been said and plenty said that made no sense at all. It's simple really - look at your ingredients AND know all dog food is not made the same! Avoid grocery store brands at all costs and visit your independent retailer for healthier choices - for all budget types! There are many smaller pet food companies that use human grade ingredients with up to 3 different quality control tests! Rule of thumb Avoid the following: meat by products, corn, wheat, soy! Those are fillers- cheap fillers used by big profit making companies. Also avoid BHA and BHT - preservatives that are known carcigens (and found in human mashed potatoes and cereal). There are several BALANCED raw diets on the market - and you run no greater risk handling raw dog food as you do handling the chicken you are cooking for your family. Also - cats are the true carnivore -- only grains they eat in the wild is whatever is in an animals they have hunted's stomach contents. They only plant they eat is grass - occassionally. Do your research and learn to read your labels! The more a food is marketed and has commercials on every channel- the worst it is.
and have you seen the increase there is in cancer in dogs? Isn't it strange how it is only dogs and humans that have the highest cancer rates? Cats are starting to come in a strong third? Gee - I wonder what the common demoninator is ---- cheap, processed food????
Pork is in some pet food -- natures variety instinct has it in thiers
? What nutrition is taught in vet school?? Answer: Whatever Hills Science Diet has written for the day.....
If you want to learn what's REALLY in the foods you feed your furry family members, try here:truthaboutpetfood.com I have.